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[-] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

No, slavery is slavery, even if its for a noble cause.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago

So you see no distinction between…

“chain around your neck, abducted from your place of birth, sailed across the world stuffed into a deck 2 foot high, sold to the highest bidder, brought to a farm, whipped until you’re bloody, served gruel, tortured at will, killed if you escape, never being compensated for your labour, worked until you die or killed off when no longer economically useful”

… and …

“joining the forces for 9 months, fully paid, or become a conscientious objector and file books in a library for 9 months; in either case your full legal rights remain”

?

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

There's a wide spectrum of bonded servitude between plantation slavery circa 16th century and the Levée en masse. Regardless, when jobs are obligatory, and the option to change jobs is difficult or impossible, it opens the victims up to abuse, which develops universally.

So while I can see you're trying to make a case for the latter, as if it isn't cause for harm, invariably it will drift towards the former, and history has demonstrated it time and again. The United States, especially cannot be trusted; if we wanted a truly professional military force, we would utilize poverty and lack of civilian opportunity to drive our recruitment. To the contrary we'd full transparency that our soldiers are treated well from recruitment to death.

The United States should have let sexual assaults get out of hand. They should have been generous to their wounded the shell shocked and the families of the fallen. There shouldn't be a running litany of officers who bully the ranks beneath them, sometimes to the extent of extortion and violence.

Not that it will stop the US from restoring the draft once it neuters democracy and becomes a one-party autocracy. But when that happens it will be only months before Fall Weiß.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I didn't say I see no difference? Killing someone by slowly torturing them over years and just shooting them is different. They're both still murder though. Forced labor is slavery, some slavery is worse than others- but all slavery is bad.

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