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It's very fucked up what people perceived has healthy now.
I've been in fairly decent shape my whole life but the amount of people, especially women, that tell me I'm too skinny and that I need to gain weight. Even when I'm actually closer to being overweight than underweight. Or how many times I seen someone point to someone on steroids or fat and say that they are healthy.
It's got to the point where kids need to be educated. I wouldn't even be against weighing them. If they obese then it's also child abuse and the parents fault.
People think now if you can see/feel ribs or have any muscle tone (while not being a body builder) it means you're underweight. That's how humans are meant to be built! Go look at hunter gathers tribes or any active person pre the 90's.
Shit even dogs are fat nowadays.
Gym bros be like
Gym bros normally know who's on steroids.
I find it's normally girls that are like "just look at a chicken and walk past a gym once a week and you can have arms the size of your head"
thats exactly what girls keep saying to me too!!!
boooyyy half the people on steroids take them for medical reasons lol
Yeah that's clearly not what we're talking about here. Cortisol cream for eczema is a steroid, but nobody using it would say they're on roids.
We're obviously talking about people who juice for muscle mass.
Yeah, no one is mistaking my low dose prednisone for fucking gear.
Although sometimes I do wish it provided similar benefits, lol. I get the downsides and none of the fun.
The Overton Window is always shifting, and not always in the correct direction.
Americans are particularly talented (but not alone) in this doublethink
Are you skinny fat by chance? I have a friend who's exactly like this. Bro looks super skinny to some but fat-ish to others.
Skinny fat means being lean but having near tummies, legs and arms. It's common with south asians like in indian subcontinent. It's mainly caused by unhealthy diets us desi's have.
Wdym by unhealthy diets? My family being desi had quite healthy stuff, so I rlly can't relate. Like do u mean oily gravies n stuff like they have in dhabas? Or generally low protein diets?
Yes. A lot of desis eat rice, daal, etc and don't eat much meat. All the oil in gravies and curries is also a thing. And most importantly, they don't workout. So they aren't fat nor healthy. Your family is an exception not an example.
No I think I'm just tall and long with big shoulders.
Clothes seem baggy around my tummy even with slim fit and my arms are actually legitimately quite skinny.
When I take my clothes off I used to get compliments on my chest and shoulders also butt and legs. Weirdly sometimes also arms which I didn't really understand.
how about we as a society just collectively stop making comments about people's weight at all
How about we don't, because being fat is unhealthy and also costs a lot of money to public healthcare and infrastructure.
Making it your business to call out people who are unhealthily overweight is counter productive. People know they're heavy, people know it takes a toll on their health. Lambasting them will only exacerbate their depression and make their relationship with food far more destructive. Don't be a dickhead.
Generally, I'd say that's true. But given multiple people have told I'm underweight when I was borderline obese (and I don't do any weight lifting or do manual labor as a job) does make me question how many people know they're overweight. Obese people generally know they're overweight.
The solution isn't calling out individuals about their weight though or collectively shaming people for being overweight. If you want people do have better diets and exercise more, changing the environment to be more conducive for that will do much more. But making sure healthyweight and overweight people aren't pressured into eating more by people who insist they are underweight is probably a good thing.
Exactly. We've got to treat the root cause of what's going on, and that's often an extremely complex challenge that varies from person to person.
how about if you actually crack a science textbook you'll learn that body fat matters a lot less than whether or not someone is physically active and that losing weight isn't as simple as just dieting and exercise and that giving an entire generation of people eating disorders put more strain on the healthcare system than obesity ever did
Looks like you need a science book.
If exercise and dieting didn't work you'd be breaking the first law of thermodynamics.
It would be an absolute guarantee Nobel prize and you'd change the world.
Diet more so them dieting. What you eat is very important.
Breaking out thermodynamics as an excuse to be a prick online doesn't make you seem cool.
Wrong https://www.ramsayhealth.co.uk/blog/lifestyle/is-fat-but-fit-a-myth
So far matters less than fitness, like the person you are replying to stated?
Fuck you can't read huh. Metabolic health is inversely proportional to fat.
Also, relevance? That has nothing to do with the claim the person you claimed was wrong said nor anything I said. But sure. I'm the one who can't read.