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[-] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

So the resolution lies in the secret that a decreasing trend up to infinity adds up to a finite value. This is well explained by Gabriel's horn area and volume paradox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZOi9HH5ueU

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 3 points 4 months ago

If I remember my series analysis math classes correctly: technically, summing a decreasing trend up to infinity will give you a finite value if and only if the trend decreases faster than the function/curve x -> 1/x.

[-] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago

Great. Can you give me example of decreasing trend slower than that function curve?, where summation doesn't give finite value? A simple example please, I am not math scholar.

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So, for starters, any exponentiation "greater than 1" is a valid candidate, in the sense that 1/(n^2), 1/(n^3), etc will all give a finite sum over infinite values of n.

From that, inverting the exponentiation "rule" gives us the "simple" examples you are looking for: 1/√n, 1/√(√n), etc.

Knowing that √n = n^(1/2), and so that 1/√n can be written as 1/(n^(1/2)), might help make these examples more obvious.

[-] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Hang on, that's not a decreasing trend. 1/√4 is not smaller, but larger than 1/4...?

[-] Jayjader@jlai.lu 1 points 4 months ago

From 1/√3 to 1/√4 is less of a decrease than from 1/3 to 1/4, just as from 1/3 to 1/4 is less of a decrease than from 1/(3²) to 1/(4²).

The curve here is not mapping 1/4 -> 1/√4, but rather 4 -> 1/√4 (and 3 -> 1/√3, and so on).

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