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With evidence mounting on the failure to limit global warming to 1.5C, do you think global carbon emissions will be low enough by 2050 to at least avoid the most catastrophic climate change doomsday scenarios forecast by the turn of the century?

I am somewhat hopeful most developed countries will get there but I wonder if developing countries will have the ability and inclination to buy into it as well.

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[โ€“] Auzy@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Unfortunately not. The idiots now doing the most damage are justifying it with just pointing fingers at China or everyone else. They're the same narcissists who will always find someone else to blame for everything, in every aspect of their life

In 20 years time, those same people will still be blaming everyone else, whilst spewing anti-science nonsense about how clean solar apparently isn't or that EVs is far more dirty than their Dodge RAM's they use to flirt with their mates.

They're also the same clowns that exaggerate everything to justify their arguments (and they think everyone needs to tow 5 tons, travel 1500km on a regular basis and that EVs are regularly catching on fire)

[โ€“] Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

Nothing will be done, I wouldn't sell my Shell shares yet.

[โ€“] Fish@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

If capitalism is still the dominant economic system and wealth inequality is even higher then it is now, then there is no chance at all of meeting climate goals, there never was.

[โ€“] ThomasApollus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No way!

We'll continue to warm the planet with CO2 emissions until we reach a point where summers actually kill people in the thousands, probably millions each year. As poor people (whose number is increasing) move out of now uninhabitable places, we'll see a collapse of the economic system. Many big companies will probably not find a way to sustain themselves and will disappear.

Brace yourself for ever increasing cost of life, poverty, worse overall health, lower life expectancy, lower fertility rates and population, and maybe some water wars and food wars for some decades.

Humanity might eventually recover from such collapse over a couple of centuries. I think of it as the Bronze Age Collapse, but worse by magnitudes.

[โ€“] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No, I do not think we will avoid catastrophic change. The ice sheets, the ocean heating, everything is moving faster than the predictions estimated. We have now entered into several severe feedback loops we have no way of stopping.

Every tech we might have to pull carbon out of the atmosphere is in it's infancy, when we needed it to be online and operational ten years ago. And we're STILL pumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.

During Covid we showed that humanity can't or won't pull together to fight a commen threat. Our species will survive, but it will be difficult, and many, many poeple are going to die in mass. Huge swaths of this planet are going to become uninhabitable.

And I'm sorry. I did everything I reasonably could. Ate less meat, grow/grew my own food, wrote to legislators, tried to spread awareness, and what good did it do? Did any of it do? Not a goddamned thing.

I am going to keep doing everything I can, but I think it's over. We just don't know it yet. (I have sources for The Deadly Feedback Loops if anyone is interested.)

[โ€“] sin_free_for_00_days@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No. We're completely fucked. Any response that starts with "Well, we have a chance if humans collectively " you know that's not going to happen. I suppose maybe every country could go full authoritarian like China, Myanmar, or North Korea and then just dictate how things are going to be, then maybe, but let's get back to the real world. Capitalism won't die until society dies. It's the parasite that kills its host.

Go out and vote, they say. So I did. Over 3 decades of voting. Only to end up with some corporate geriatrics running things, as always. Well, go out and make a change they say. So I did, walking my precinct, trying to drum up support for more rational, progressive candidates. Only to end up with some corporate geriatrics as the choices again. People suck. People in groups suck more. You people can do what you want, but I'm just going to sit back in my chair on the porch and cheer the entire world burning down at this point. Fuck everyone. It's a good thing that I've gotten apathetic in my dotage, as I think otherwise I'd have a picture in my pocket of the lucky one as Devo said.

[โ€“] FatTony@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Lest we do not make use of geoengineering, definitely not.

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