Great news! Web apps represent the democratization of mobile apps, empowering independent developers free from the constraints of the App Stores
Ability to add any app repositories would be much better.
Not better, but also good.
They wouldn't be better than web apps in and of themselves, but having two options to reach users instead of one is better for the ecosystem, users, and devs overall.
It would be good, but not better. Why do people like apps so much? I hate them... Like, there is so much browsers can do these days, there is no point in having to install so much crap on our phones...
Why would I have to download an app that has so many permissions, syphon my data, run in the background and drain my battery, when 90% of the stuff can stay in the browser?
The only few advantages I can think off that an app can bring are the following:
Most use cases don't require either of these.
I'm using Voyager browse and interact with Lemmy. It looks more or less exactly like Apollo and it's a webapp. There's a few small things that's not exactly as a native app, like double tapping the top of a scrolling window to scroll to top, but it's really minor. I bet most people wouldn't know it was a webapp if they weren't told.
It even works with the sharing intent so I can share to native apps. Pretty awesome.
No one is saying you should have to. Any site that forces you to download an app on mobile is shitty.
They're saying there should be an option for devs and users that want to use it. Web apps shouldn't be the only way of reaching the smartphone audiences if you don't want to go through the Apple App Store.
higher complexity, devs have a bit more freedom I guess
That isn't a minor thing.
I wasn't saying it shouldn't be an option. I do believe in third party app stores, which is why I have an Android and I download many of my apps fron f-droid.
It just feels like every other website I browse to on the phone has at least an annoying popup asking me to download their app... And at the worst it won't let me browse at all, unless I switch to desktop mode and get full functionality, but UI doesn't scale well.
What I am saying is, I don't need an app for facebook, reddit, lemmy, youtube, spotify, uber, carrefour and the list can go on and on... If it doesn't work offline, I don't want an app for it. And yes, I know you can download music and videos for offline use, but I don't, so just let me use the webapp... I undertand the benefits of an app, I just don't feel like keeping an app for that once a week I open reddit to look up some niche sub.
Requiring an app for contacting services like renting a bike or online shopping I find stupid, this should be done on a web page or via standardized protocol.
I think your perspective might be from looking at the current market, when it feels like everything is starting to require a mobile app. But it does not have to be like that. On my laptop I counted 270 installed programs (5000+ packages) and cannot feel any slowdown or any more battery usage. And whole system takes no more than 30GB. It is full of tools, always available for me and easy to update with single command. (I use Arch BTW).
Web is becoming so complicated it is impossible to create a new browser engine. Even if you someone spend billions to create one, there is a high chance many webapps won't work because standards are not perfect and can be interpreted by current browsers.
Native software is simple. Take Rust program for example, it is compiled to a binary and distributed via your OS. With webapp, there is hack upon hack upon hack to make it working and fit an app into what basically was created as a document format. There is not even a standard way to keep track of licences of the script a website sends to the browser. Today most webapps are just proprietary WebKit apps, with no access to source code and no clear licence, that can be easly changed remotely by the creator but not the user.
That’s great news. Not that I like Apple anyway with such douchy move.
Oh look, the EU threatens to investigate and potentially fine them, and suddenly there IS a way to preserve "security and privacy" with web apps. It's almost like the initial reasoning for the change was complete bullshit!
It's still only halfway there, but at least they are not removing existing functionality anymore. Let's see how the EU likes this new "only WebKit" restriction.
I think they just stuffed something worse relatively unnoticed, and this thing was intended to divert attention.
Last minute change, even the release candidate doesn't have the functionality restored.
Yeah but it's only for Webkit. Apple Webkit is deliberately neutered so webapps don't work well with it so that people don't use them and rather buy "real" apps in the app store
And now they sell it as a feature, huh?
Incredible innovation, so brave!
Is this just for EU? Being in the states, will I be losing my Overseerr and Homarr web apps?
It was just for the EU, because they didn't want to add a whole framework and support for third-party browser engines to act as home screen web apps. Now they'll continue to offer those based on WebKit everywhere.
And that a week after eu announced they'd investigate apple for excluding the feature in the eu.
Looks like somebody was called out for having bullshit hehe
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