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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by ajsadauskas@aus.social to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

In an age of LLMs, is it time to reconsider human-edited web directories?

Back in the early-to-mid '90s, one of the main ways of finding anything on the web was to browse through a web directory.

These directories generally had a list of categories on their front page. News/Sport/Entertainment/Arts/Technology/Fashion/etc.

Each of those categories had subcategories, and sub-subcategories that you clicked through until you got to a list of websites. These lists were maintained by actual humans.

Typically, these directories also had a limited web search that would crawl through the pages of websites listed in the directory.

Lycos, Excite, and of course Yahoo all offered web directories of this sort.

(EDIT: I initially also mentioned AltaVista. It did offer a web directory by the late '90s, but this was something it tacked on much later.)

By the late '90s, the standard narrative goes, the web got too big to index websites manually.

Google promised the world its algorithms would weed out the spam automatically.

And for a time, it worked.

But then SEO and SEM became a multi-billion-dollar industry. The spambots proliferated. Google itself began promoting its own content and advertisers above search results.

And now with LLMs, the industrial-scale spamming of the web is likely to grow exponentially.

My question is, if a lot of the web is turning to crap, do we even want to search the entire web anymore?

Do we really want to search every single website on the web?

Or just those that aren't filled with LLM-generated SEO spam?

Or just those that don't feature 200 tracking scripts, and passive-aggressive privacy warnings, and paywalls, and popovers, and newsletters, and increasingly obnoxious banner ads, and dark patterns to prevent you cancelling your "free trial" subscription?

At some point, does it become more desirable to go back to search engines that only crawl pages on human-curated lists of trustworthy, quality websites?

And is it time to begin considering what a modern version of those early web directories might look like?

@degoogle #tech #google #web #internet #LLM #LLMs #enshittification #technology #search #SearchEngines #SEO #SEM

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[-] SDWolf@furries.club 2 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas @degoogle So, classic mid-90s Yahoo. Or LookSmart, which was initially curated by Reader's Digest.

[-] GnomeComedy@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Sounds like you may enjoy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol) if you haven't installed a browser and tried it.

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas sounds like you want https://curlie.org/ - which seems to be up to date and interesting.

[-] tom@tomtau.be 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas Lemmy instances without comments?

[-] riggbeck@mastodon.social 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas @degoogle

It would be sad to go back to walled gardens like AOL, particularly since they were corporate-owned. But a sort of Kite Mark, certifying a site is free of LLMs, would be useful. Then users could choose for themselves.

[-] hyc@mastodon.social 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas @degoogle ah the good ol' days. I was a curator on yahoo's directory for a few years, before it ended.

@ajsadauskas @degoogle I've always wanted to try or contribute to one of these!

[-] meet_eli@mstdn.business 1 points 7 months ago

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[-] Simplicator@federate.social 1 points 7 months ago
[-] kommen@hachyderm.io 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas @degoogle it sounds a bit like Kagi‘s Small Web initiative and search. have you seen it? https://blog.kagi.com/small-web

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[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

@ajsadauskas I think Github's awesome lists are kind of like this. They're human-maintained catalogues of worthwhile websites on a specific topic.

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