KDE believes in the power of diversity and inclusion. Women* enrich our community, shaping more inclusive and accessible tech. : kde

[-] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Don't understand the * in that?? Like are there others included that are not worth mentioning or trying to be "inclusive" without being inclusive? Or is just those people just afterthoughts, footnotes?

[-] finkrat@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah even if there is a worthwhile footnote, that * signals that "there's a catch, uh oh spaghettios"

If you're shouting out Non-Binary spectrum, Xenos, Agender, or others too just say so. If we're talking trans folk, there's no asterisk needed. If you are looking to include men, what's the point of shouting out the women, just thank all contributors. The effort is nice but that bit of the execution is pretty flawed and opens up way too much discussion that gives the bigots a platform to yell on.

[-] homura1650@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As a non-binary person myself, I actually hope the asterisk isn't meant to refer to me. I get offended enough by the common "women and non-binary" phrasing. But to literally include me as a footnote under "women"? If I was a women, I wouldn't be non-binary.

Not to harp on KDE too much here. Even in queer spaces, enby erasure is annoyingly common.

[-] finkrat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Entirely fair and valid! Apologies for making it sound like that would be a good thing. Thanks for your input on that.

[-] NotAtWork@startrek.website 11 points 8 months ago

I'm going to assume that Women was supposed to be in Italics.

[-] sanfierro@pony.social 16 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social There's something with federation or someone who made the asterisk forgot to elaborate it

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

*Including trans women

That's my guess.

[-] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

The subtext there being that trans women aren't real women. TERF virtue signalling is fucking gross...

[-] PoliticalCustard@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Binary trans people would be included with "women" or "men", they wouldn't require an asterisk. It might be for non-binary people

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

https://xkcd.com/859/ but for an *

[-] DrPop@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

If you want a fun deep dive into tech and inclusiveness look up telephone technology and the female voice. People of color with Ai. Technology needs to be inclusive at all levels otherwise we'll have technology that is remained on only a portion of society. I'll check it out

[-] yuukayuuka@mastodon.cloud 6 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social that picture should definitely become a default included wallpaper

[-] hj@shigusegubu.club 5 points 8 months ago

@kde @kde cute art

[-] enqfila@mastodon.com.br 5 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Whoops! Besides the obscure asterisk, the alt text mentions Kiki from Krita, when the image is Kate from Kate editor!

[-] Orca@nya.one 5 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Can't see what the asterisk near "Women" do.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

It starts a conversation, gosh

[-] TerraDev64@mastodon.gamedev.place 3 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social thanks for standing for diversity and inclusivity. ❤️

[-] Nulhomme@mastodon.social 3 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Need to see more art of Kate the bird never knew it's a bird :toucan: feel even better that i use kate as a code editor

[-] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 0 points 8 months ago

Love how being a woman always gets you an asterisk.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

I don't find any difference in men and women having some advantage in efficiency or design taste besides what they probably were encouraged to do while being dependent on their parents. It's just stupid and unfair to hardline their future at that stage and later judge them by their gender while judging their employability or contribution. I'm happy some project and companies do care about that, because I encountered a lot of women being way better than me or their men coworkers in their lines of work due to their curiosity, responsibility and effort put into projects. I'd probably be happy if some successful start up would employ a women-only team to counter bigots and be succesful at that. And I can only cheer to parents who encourage their girls to try engineering, IT stuff and supporting them if they get interested in that.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So counter sexism with more sexism?

Everywhere I've worked people who are sexist get pushed to the side. It's simply not tolerated when work needs doing, and expertise is what matters.

I don't care what your dangly bits are, or who you screw. Why is that even part of any conversation about making widgets better, or more efficiently?

I've worked with people who love to talk politics at work, I can't fucking stand it, on any side. It's not related to what we're doing, so keep your fucking opinions to yourself, and focus on the job at hand. Your politics only interfere with what the rest of the team is trying to accomplish.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago

I don't understand you.

[-] hacknorris@mstdn.social -3 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social once was close to add one app to whole DE... just that qt is hard and designer app either yet harder or bugged :/

[-] not_benis@cawfee.club -3 points 8 months ago

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[+] Managor@linuxrocks.online -11 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Can you please stop with the virtue signaling? Thank you.

[+] alxlg@mastodon.social -44 points 8 months ago

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

In my experience #KDE is just as inclusive as anything else:

If you criticize the EU you are labeled as a "nationalist" and "far-right".

If you criticize vaccination obligations you are labeled as an "antivaxxer".

And so on.

Then you got banned with no right to appeal, just like everywhere else, just like in Middle Ages.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 38 points 8 months ago

Yes, and if you say the N word, people assume you're racist. What a world!

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

"If I foam at the mouth, people assume I'm rabid."

Welcome to reality.

[-] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Then you got banned with no right to appeal, just like everywhere else

Damn right

[-] ted@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

Maybe show your posts to a therapist and get an unbiased take?

[-] arisu@layer8.space 9 points 8 months ago

@alxlg @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Yes. Just like the internet was in the middle ages...

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Why are you criticising the EU and vaccinations to people just trying to develop some programs.

[-] finkrat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Alright who let you out of your echo chamber

[-] vlad76 -2 points 8 months ago

That's just modern day Internet.

[-] Bro666@lemmy.kde.social 12 points 8 months ago

There are plenty of places on the Internet where you can go be a misogynistic, trans-hating, homophobic, antivaxxing jerk. Just so happens this isn't one of them.

[-] alxlg@mastodon.social 1 points 8 months ago

@vlad76

Yes, back to Middle Ages, like if Voltaire, Montesquieu, Rousseau and the others never existed. But in addition it's not a central authority that enforces thoughts but average citizens to each dissident, just like in George Orwell's 1984.

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