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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/meta@slrpnk.net

So there are a few topics that came up lately that I think would be nice to discuss with members of this community.

Basically this is part of writing a Code of Conduct for our instance and I think we need to talk about some specific type of posts:

Doomers

Naturally the themes discussed in our communities are attracting a lot of climate doomer comments and I would say we also have a significant number of "recovering doomers" here as community members.

Earlier this week I considered closing the /c/collapse community on SRLPNK, because it is not actively moderated and attracts a lot of these types, even though ex_06 (who asked me to have their account re-activated, but not as an admin) originally intended it to be more of a psychological self-help group for people trying to get to terms with the likely loss of many things that defined their life so far.

While the typical doomer could probably need some psychological support, they are usually still in a stage of grief that makes them lash out and not engage in a constructive exchange how to make the best of the current difficult situation we sadly find ourselves in.

Mostly I have been doing temporary bans for such doomers to cool down and not spread their doom and gloom endlessly in our communities, but I think we need to come up with a common idea how to deal with this better.

Discussing civil disobedience

aka Direct Action or the other man's "Eco Terrorist" (yeah right...).

Obviously this is a topic many climate activists find themselves more and more confronted with and you might already be involved with a group engaged in such actions of civil disobedience. And lets not forget about the punk in Solarpunk either :)

However, obviously this is a public web-site and thus easily monitored by law-enforcement and other people that might be interested in reporting such discussions to the local authorities. Thus to protect this service and also our users from themselves we can't really allow planning discussions with specific targets or generally calls for action against specific persons to happen here out in the open (or in the semi-public direct messages).

Obviously, we can never condone violence against persons, but aside from that please be careful with discussing climate activism on the clear-web and rather use fully end to end encrypted means with people you can trust!

However this has obviously a large grey area and people might have stronger views on what should and should not be discussed here.

Absolute Vegans

Vegans are obviously welcome on SLRPNK and I think we can all agree that strongly reducing the consumption of animal products is a worthy goal.

However, there are some very opinionated (online) Vegans / animal rights activists that (intentionally or not) are indistinguishable from trolls and generally very toxic to deal with. Please don't feel personally attacked by this, but I think we need to come up with something regarding this in our code of conduct.


So these were the three topics I had in my mind lately, but feel free to discuss others as well.

I am looking forward to your thoughts on this!

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[-] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

The discussion should be about how to handle content that's fine with enslaving and slaughtering of other species instead of how to restrict the ones that oppose animal abuse very strictly.

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[-] greengnu@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Doom is a natural response to the death of hope. The cure is to help people build paths to a new hope; a solar punk hope of a solar punk future.

[-] Odo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Hi! I got banned from one of the communities in the instance about a month ago (climate). I think (hope) it was actually a mistake? I got into a discussion with someone under an article, they kept saying dumb things, and the mod for that comm removed his comments with the reason "don't troll", but then banned me for 30 days for "trolling" (and not the other user who had their comments removed). I messaged the mod for that comm to ask if it had been a mistake, but I'm thinking they may had blocked me as I didn't get a reply.

I'm posting mainly because I don't want that permanent "stain" in my record when it was possibly a mistake. Is there anything I can do about it?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

The ban expires in 3 days and was probably for feeding the troll (hard to say a month later with all posts removed 🤷‍♂️ ). There is no "permanent stain", just don't do it again please.

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[-] clueless_stoner@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a mistake. I'm sure @poVoq@slrpnk.net can help

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Meta, how does moderation / deletion work?

If i post to another instance and they remove my comment, does it also disappear from my own local profile view (as if the hosting instance controls display of all comments even remotely)? Or would it have to be removed by my own host to make it disappear from my own local profile view?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, that is the general idea of participating in remote communities. Technically your home instance could ignore the deletion request, I don't see why that would be desirable.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I was wondering where some of my comments went. Wouldn't it be better if it would hide them from the thread view but let them stay in the profile (as long as your local mods doesn't also remove)?

(And I don't think those comments broke the rules and recieved no notification, so it seemed very weird that they just vanished)

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, they should not just vanish. If a mod deletes a post a stub remains saying "removed by mod" or so.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

At best I'm seeing a stub "load more comments" but then it doesn't show either there OR in my own profile (where all other comments still show)

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Can you link to an example or DM me one? As admin I see a some deleted posts, but I don't think this extends to posts removed in the regular way on other instances. Also check the modlog (linked in the side bar) of that specific community to see if any moderation actions against your posts are documented.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

"no gatekeeping" as a response to telling them about literal genocide denial is the most absurd thing I've seen...

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&userId=2277108

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

This post was removed for reason "This belongs in politics, not technology" and it is completely memoryholed on BeeHaw. Though my comments in the post are still viewable in my post history, the post is gone. The post is still available on the servers from which people commented though. Lemmy 0.18.4 is the current software on BeeHaw.

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