The boys try to make sense of Katherine Maher, the new president of NPR, ex-CEO of Wikimedia, ex-Atlantic Council, ex-State Department, and current member of the Council of Foreign Relations. But as usual their liberal ideology doesn’t quite get them there. They see that Maher has a relationship with the ruling class, the state, and imperialism, but they’re unable to see that, because this is a monopoly capitalist state, the capitalist class, the state, and imperialism are really one system (How they fail to note that NPR is state-affiliated media is beyond me).

They talk about the new FISA expansion bill (which was signed into law today) as well, which to their credit they see as related.

America This Week, April 19, 2024: "To Build a Surveillance State." (transcript)
A paid subscription is ostensibly required, so: https://files.catbox.moe/e7xim5.mp3

ETA: The Grayzone on Maher previously:

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