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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by McBinary@kbin.social to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social

Can I just rant a little to you all?

I've tried numerous times to help people from reddit set up an account and get started on Kbin (and lemmy), but 4 out of 5 times people can't seem to grasp the concept of registering an account and starting to use this platform. Even breaking it down into 2 steps, with direct links... They get angry, and then ragequit their attempt in a huff saying how it's too fucking complicated and it will never take off because it's so hard.

Ok, I get that the fediverse is complicated if you think deeply about all the interconnectivity and federation etc, but there is no reason you even have to think about any of it to create an account and get started. Like, at all.

It reminds me so much of my 70/y old mother-in-law not immediately knowing how to work a tv remote and shoving it at me after 1.5 seconds saying "here, I can't figure this out". When in reality all she had to do was press the fucking big red button...

I'm just so frustrated with people's complete lack of ability to help themselves.

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[-] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

I get both sides. Just the act of having to create a new login/password is too much for many who've gotten used to signing in with their Facebook or Google accounts and they want things to be as friction free as possible and I think that's fair enough. Personally I really enjoyed the process of learning about the Fediverse, figuring out how Lemmy works and understanding its strengths and limitations. But that's not most people. I know one redditor I tried to describe it to said they gave up after the first sentence. If I really simplified it they will understand but in doing so you might misslead them about the world of instances, how they can all differ slightly, how they may or may not fully interact with each other. Me, I'm like holy crap! I'm on this tiny little instance in a corner of the world and I can not only read but like, comment and subscribe to all these other much bigger communities!? Let alone interact with kbin.social which isn't even Lemmy at all!? It just works! But I'm also very tollerant of times when things may not work as expected, but I don't care, because at least it's not reddit ;-)

[-] ASnoogeeNamedSnowman@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, fuck 'em. There's only so much you can do, and it sounds like you've made it very easy. Move on and spend your time on those who are out of the loop but of a growth mindset. Who do you really want here anyway?

[-] Xer0@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Seriously, the Internet was better before it was so accessible. I might sound arrogant, but I don't care. I want people here who actually have half a clue about how to operate a computer. If someone doesn't even know how to sign up to a website and rage quits, I'm quite glad they aren't here.

[-] MrComradeTaco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The majority of people out there are plain dumb bud. Don't get angry is a normal rate in the human race.

[-] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

My hot take: I'm okay with a barrier to entry (right now).

Getting setup on the fediverse isn't necessarily a super simple process and there is a bit of learning curve for how it works.

That's okay. I actually like it. Here's why.

It means the people here want to be here. It means the people here understand what it is and more importantly what it isn't. It's not a reddit clone. It's not even old school forums. It's this.

And "this" isn't even it's final form. I fully expect for the fediverse to evolve over the next few months and years. As a community develops and the technology is refined, I am sure it will all get simpler as we knock off the rough edges.

In the mean time, this tiny barrier to entry keeps a lot of the whiners and naysayers away. It keeps people that only want a reddit clone, away. If you want reddit, use reddit. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

It's a balancing act, because we don't want to turn so many people away that we can't build a reasonable community, but you also don't want a bad copy of a system people are leaving.

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