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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by IngrownMink4@lemmygrad.ml to c/lemmygrad_court@lemmygrad.ml

Hi. I wanted to talk about an issue that has been bothering me for a long time and that is the quality of the publications that are being made lately in the Leftsthetics community.

I have a specific problem with the user “Роძэя ΟЬяэяо” who I think has not understood the purpose of that community very well. The description of the community reads as follows:

For propaganda posters, art, influential photos, and anything else that promotes the aesthetics of revolution and the Left.

The problem is that this user does not upload anything that has to do with socialist or Marxist aesthetics. With so many artistic and aesthetic expressions of this movement, I don't understand how they can use the community to upload memes, which are also in Spanish. They also share famous quotes from great thinkers but again, is out of place in this community. In fact, this user currently moderates the Latino Marxist community and they have not even oriented it towards anything concrete, it is an accumulation of his publications that are completely decontextualised. And always, in all publications, it says "Latino Marxist", without descriptions or anything, as if it were some kind of branding or an automated bot. It gives a very bad image and worsens the impression of Lemmygrad.

I don't want to promote hatred towards this user because I doubt their intentions are evil, but I think this community has a lot of potential and right now it is full of out-of-context posts and memes. For that we already have other communities with more varied subject matter.

I attach examples where you can see what I am talking about. Having said that, I hope that the moderators will do something to improve the quality of the publications. Thank you.

Edit v1.01: Change pronouns (he/him -> they/them)

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[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

I will solve this by simply posting cool art to the leftsthetics community. No need to thank me. 😌

[-] IngrownMink4@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Highly appreciated! 😊

[-] nour@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

!leftsthetics@lemmygrad.ml moderator here (though rather inactive lately). I agree, this is not how the community is supposed to be used. No-one said anything about it for a long time, so I figured everyone else was okay with it and kept it up.

So, how exactly to proceed now? It would be good to message the user and ask them to direct their posts to a more fitting community like !latino_marxista@lemmygrad.ml which they already moderate. Problem is, I don't speak Spanish. Does anyone on here speak Spanish and could write such message?

[-] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can. I will try to get in contact with them.

Update: they have posted again on c/leftsthetics around 20 minutes ago and they did not reply to my message, so I wouldn't expect anything.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You could comment on their post?

[-] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well, it took a while but I got an answer.

"Hello, thank you for your comments. Cheers."

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Agreed. When I think of that community name, I don't want memes (in Spanish or otherwise but sadly as someone who can't speak Spanish they're especially useless to me), I expect like propaganda posters, either official of AES states past/present or new ones people have mocked up in that same vibe. Or maybe like photos of the Soviet Union or China, Cuba, DPRK, etc that emphasize some sort of left aesthetic, hammer and sickles visible, red flags, public housing, something.

[-] IngrownMink4@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Exactly! And as for publications in Spanish, I'll be honest. I'm Spanish, I speak Spanish and all that stuff, but, knowing that most of you here speak English, it seems to me to be exclusionary to use Spanish, especially in images and without even putting a translation in the description of the publication. This makes the content inaccessible to many users and confusing for those who only speak English.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think Spanish posts are fine in a community like !latino_marxista@lemmygrad.ml, just like Polish posts are fine in !poland@lemmygrad.ml.

Even being able to read Spanish though, !leftsthetics@lemmygrad.ml isn’t the right place for all the Spanish-language content.

For example, this one is out of place (even if it weren’t for the typos): https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1023478

This one might be okay: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1077937

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

HAHA POLISH PEOPLE ARE NOTICED HAHAHAHA

😎😎😎🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱💪💪💪

But no really, the Spanish stuff should have it's own community like we do, and even then we permit English and sometimes provide both English and Polish in the same posts.

[-] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

They also post Spaniard stuff on Latino Marxista which also doesn't make sense at all, I get it if you maybe post some Soviet stuff for the sake of it okay but Spaniard communism?

[-] IngrownMink4@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I agree, it is out of place, no matter how interesting it is.

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

How is Spaniard stuff on Latino Marxista out of place?

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Spain is across the ocean from LatAm. If it’s also for Spanish stuff then it might as well be called hispano marxista or something like that. That would then exclude Portuguese or indigenous languages which are common in LatAm.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

As an outsider, it looks like the board is just one person doing a shitpost a day, and never engaging with the broader community. Well, other than to occasionally post ✊ every few months.

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago
[-] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Tell them to use c/memes, c/genzedonges, or c/latino_marxista instead.

[-] IngrownMink4@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

That's a good idea, but I also wanted the moderators to agree on new guidelines for that community.

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