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I'm almost sorry to ask this, but does anyone have experience with Firefox on Linux taking a long time to open? I'm running Pop!_OS on a fairly modern machine. All other programs open pretty quickly, but Firefox seems to drag its feet on startup. Once it's open it's great, no problems with speed.

I have tried disabling extensions (ublock origin, sponsorblock, decentraleyes, i still don't care about cookies) and I have tried setting my default profile as one without any custom user.js (I have a profile with Arkenfox and one with Betterfox's user.js). Nothing I have done so far has seemed to make any difference, but Help->Troubleshoot Mode allows Firefox to open quickly, so there must be something that I can disable that is causing the issue... Any ideas? Thanks.

Edit: Seems like swapping to the flatpak version made things much faster. The Pop!_OS .deb version must be snap like you all said :) Thanks everyone!

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[–] julianh@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you know if its installed through snap? I've heard that can have issues starting up quickly. You can try the flatpak or the deb package.

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just checked, I'm using the deb package.

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Okay, well switching to flatpak solved it. Thanks!

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If OP is on Ubuntu, it's a snap.

I personally don't have any issues launching Firefox, which is installed as a regular app and not a snap/flatpak. It's basically instant for me, maybe 2-3s if I have a ton of tabs or something. I haven't tried the flatpak, but I'd be surprised if it adds more than a second or so, because other flatpak apps launch reasonably fast.

[–] pqjke@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He is running Pop Os, they don't use snaps natively.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Snap is preinstalled though. Maybe something happened that caused it to get installed

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've always wondered why snap is so slow, I feel like launching a docker container with firefox in it would still be faster than snap.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Snap is basically a docker container with some frills.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you have it as a snap package :-(

I only use native .deb and never a snap, for everything

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm on PopOS, pretty sure it's not snap!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pop OS comes with snap preinstalled

[–] Ransack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

Prove me wrong. Last time I checked it was installed

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

Use flatpak

[–] facow@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Firefox installed as a snap package on PopOS? That could be it if that's your only snap package. I'd recommend installing a Firefox fork that's a regular deb package (Libre Wolf probably?) and seeing if that changes anything

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Just checked, I'm using the deb package.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it a snap? If it is try installing the Flatpak

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just checked, I'm using the deb package.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Have tried the flatpak? Also try creating a new profile.

What is your disk performance?

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Flatpak is much better, thank you for the suggestion.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

That's strange

My guess it that there is something in your profile. However, Flatpak is more secure anyway so you might as well stick to it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If you're on Ubuntu or one of its derivatives (Pop!_OS is an Ubuntu derivative), it's probably a snap. I don't know about Pop!_OS specifically, but I know Ubuntu ships snaps through debs.

[–] dr_jekell@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you try to open FF using the terminal does it give you any error messages?

[–] SentientFishbowl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good suggestion. What does this mean? [Parent 4226, Unnamed thread 762a7e8fd280] WARNING: Failed to set scheduler settings: Operation not permitted: 'glib warning', file /builds/worker/checkouts/gecko/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:187

(firefox:4226): GLib-CRITICAL **: 20:17:36.507: Failed to set scheduler settings: Operation not permitted

[–] dr_jekell@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

From the what I have read it seems like this is a Gnome error causing problems for software.

You might be able to get better feedback if you post in one of the Linux specific communities.

[–] Psyhackological@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I have the exact same issue on PopOS but with Librewolf but not with Brave, so it's related to the engine. Moreover, this bug is funny because I don't know why, but it's related to me being in the exact place. I don't have the same issue when I'm at my family home, but when I'm somewhere other, the issue occurs. It loads about 10 - 15 second. I still haven't figured it out, though. Pacstall also lags when I'm updating.

dpkg -l | grep librewolf
ii  librewolf                                         128.0-1                                                           all          The Librewolf Browser
[–] Coelacanthus@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 11 months ago

That may be because the hostname can't be resolved.
https://forum.suse.org.cn/t/topic/12280 (Chinese)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1296836 (upstream report)