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The multinational has removed dozens of apps, even though the Kremlin’s censorship body did not order the move. These services, half-permitted by the government, enable people in Russia to access social networks and independent media

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 151 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The U.S. company — whose phones are still sold in Russian stores despite the firm officially leaving the market due to the invasion of Ukraine...

Apple taking a brave stand as ever.

Edit: This was not the smartest comment.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Apple left Russia but their phones are still making it there from China. What stand do you mean?

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Is your expectation that Apple will send in troops to raid phone stores inside of Russia?

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe they expect them to stop China from selling them to Russia, bahahaha

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

I misunderstood and my comment wasn't well considered. It was even dumb.

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 107 points 2 months ago

This is why you don't buy into closed-garden ecosystems like this. If you're on iOS, there's nothing you can do about it, you're at their mercy. Android has great support for side loading. There's really only one choice if you care about freedom.

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You can side load on iPhone, it’s just not as easy. I have multiple side loaded apps.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Don't you have to renew them all the time though?

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

Not anymore if you use their new sideloading framework... which is only available in the EU

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

You still have to if you sign yourself. You still need a dev Account to sign for longer timeframe

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

So you're saying that Apple doesn't have great support for side loaded apps unlike Android.

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[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 54 points 2 months ago

Suspicious!

You can use most VPN services via the Wireguard or OpenVPN apps though, or even via some of the protocols natively supported by iOS not requiring any third-party app.

[-] noodles@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 months ago

Normies never heard about wireguard nor openvpn, this enough to deter a lot of ppl imo

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Oh I'm not trying to imply otherwise.

[-] ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

The issue is 3rd party apps make it easier for non-techie people to subvert censorship. Raising the bar works bigly in the Kremlin's favor.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Corporations. Are. Not. Your. Friend.

This message courtesy of corporations rent seeking on public infrastructure our economies cannot survive without.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I see no mention of what they actually removed or how reputable they are. "VPN apps" are a reasonably common approach to spyware. (Common enough that literally Facebook has done it.)

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You mean vpn apps deploy spyware?

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They're a good actual mechanism for spyware, because they see all your traffic.

Https means that they can't see the actual contents without installing a root certificate, but they can see all the sites you visit and for how long. Reputable providers (at least the good ones) do not log any of this, but you should have a high level of trust in a provider to use their VPN, because they see a lot still.

That doesn't mean that they didn't ban legit VPNs. I don't know. But it doesn't really qualify as "reporting news" without at least a list of the apps that were banned, because they're providing no information at all about the legitimacy of the apps, and it's a category appealing to bad actors.

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

Not familiar with iphones, can't you just use plain wireguard?

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