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It's not the 1st time a language/tool will be lost to the annals of the job market, eg VB6 or FoxPro. Though previously all such cases used to happen gradually, giving most people enough time to adapt to the changes.

I wonder what's it going to be like this time now that the machine, w/ the help of humans of course, can accomplish an otherwise multi-month risky corporate project much faster? What happens to all those COBOL developer jobs?

Pray share your thoughts, esp if you're a COBOL professional and have more context around the implication of this announcement πŸ™

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[–] MinekPo1@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Something I found is that LLM struggle with weirder cases, when it comes to code.

I once tried getting ChatGPT (though admittedly only 3.5) to ~~generate code in~~ understand SaHuTOrEPoL, which is one of the more esoteric languages I created, and it really struggled with it.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Why would you expect ChatGPT to know how to write code in a language that you created yourself? According to that repository you created it last year, and ChatGPT was only trained on data up to 2021 so there's no way it could have been in its training set. Even though AIs have surprised us with their insights in a lot of cases they aren't magical.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably because it wasn't trained on it. That's not any different from asking the same of a human.

[–] MinekPo1@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sorry, I worded my comment poorly, see my reply to FaceDeer in this thread

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't think the LLM is gonna do that great of a job with it for this reason, but still worth giving a shot. ChatGPT is a well trained coding chimp. You realistically could get a well trained chimp to start off a lot of projects and have people finish it. The fact that it can correct itself after you explain how it's wrong is very powerful as well.

LLM isn't gonna be useful for converting a single program from COBOL to Java, it is gonna be useful for converting many programs from COBOL to Java. I bet IBM is trying this on their own shit first before they try to sell it to customers, because language conversion software would be a HUGE but very boom based money.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

IBM hawks new conversion tools all the time. None of them are amazing sliver bullets, all of them require humans to comb over the resulting output. And every single one I’ve ever used chokes on any weird case.

From the RPG fixed form to free form, DDS to DDL conversion, and so on all of them are usually more trouble to use than to not use.

IBM does this kind of stuff all the time. And for some folks it’ll work some of the times. But at this point, I just skip any WS tool they put out and have a snippet on RDi and RDz that does all the required plugging away to call web services from the COBOL module.

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