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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

He should be grateful. I hear programming interviews are pretty similar, as in the employer provides the code, and will pretty much watch you work it in some cases. Rather be embarrassed now than interview time. I'm honestly impressed he went the entire time memorizing the code enough to be able to explain it, and picked up nada.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 points 8 hours ago

I'm honestly impressed he went the entire time memorizing the code enough to be able to explain it, and picked up nada.

Or he asked the LLM to summarise it and memorised that.

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[–] GarlicToast@programming.dev 11 points 9 hours ago

Been a TA when chatGPT was released. Most students shot their own foot this way before we figured what was happening. Grades went from bell shaped to U shaped. A few students got 85+, the rest failed, it was brutal. Thought I failed my students horribly before I found out it was happening in all classes.

If you actually stuck in such a situation, solve as many problems as you can. An approach that will work for most people:

  1. Try to solve
  2. Fail
  3. Take a peek, understand your failure. If the peek didn't include full solution, go back to step 1. Else continue to step 4.
  4. Move to the next question and go back to step 1.

Make sure to skip questions if they are too easy. Evey 4~ hours take a 20 minutes nap (not longer than 25 minutes). If you actually manage to solve enough problems to pass, go to sleep, 4.5 hours or a longer multiplier of 1.5 hours.

After the exam go back and solve all homework yourself. DO NOT cram it, spread it or you will retain nothing long term.

Good luck.

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 97 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If it's the first course where they use Java, then one could easily learn it in 21 hours, with time for a full night's sleep. Unless there's no code completion and you have to write imports by hand. Then, you're fucked.

[–] 404@lemmy.zip 29 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

My first programming course (in Java) had a pen and paper exam. Minus points if you missed a bracket. :/

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 hours ago

Haha same. God that was such a shit show. My hand writing is terrible lmao

[–] ECB@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago

I got -30% for not writing comments for my pen and paper java final.

Somehow it just felt a bit silly to do, I guess

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 112 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

If there's no code completion, I can tell you even people who's been doing coding as a job for years aren't going to write it correctly from memory. Because we're not being paid to memorize this shit, we're being paid to solve problems optimally.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 30 points 13 hours ago

Also get paid extra to not use java

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My undergrad program had us write Java code by hand for some beginning assignments and exams. The TAs would then type whatever we wrote into Eclipse and see if it ran. They usually graded pretty leniently, though.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

There's nobody out there writing "commercial" code in notepad. It's the concepts that matter, not the spelling, so if OP got a solid grasp on those from using GPT, he'll probably make it just fine

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

Perfectly articulated.

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Remember having to use (a modified version of?) quincy for C. Trying to paste anything would put random characters into your file.

Still beats programming on paper.

[–] levzzz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Java is literally easy bro tf is there to stress about...

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Now imagine how it'll feel in interviews

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 83 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

generate code, memorize how it works, explain it to profs like I know my shit.

ChatGPT was just his magic feather all along.

[–] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

Dumbo reference

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 12 hours ago

Open the browser in one VM. Open chatgpt in another VM.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 28 points 14 hours ago

Bro just sneak to the bathroom and use chatgpt on your phone like everyone else does

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Any competent modern IDE or compiler will help you find syntax mistakes. Knowing the concepts is way more important.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Took first semester Java test a month ago. Had to use a built-in WYSIWYG editor within the test webpage.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

WYSIWYG for code? Wtf does that mean?

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

WYSIWYG stands for "what you see is what you get". Basically, it was a plain rich-text editor, with buttons for bold, italics and so on.

[–] stetech@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Probably you see black text on white background, and get no syntax highlighting or autocomplete, lol.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Java is piss easy, they're fine

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Idk I knew people who got filtered by the intro Java class. It was because they both had no prior experience and also always cheated to avoid writing code themselves for assignments.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Yup. I had a classmate I did HW with. About 1/3 of the way through our study sessions me and person C realized. Classmate never helped but pretended too. Dude failed that class so hard when we got to the final and it was hand written. 🤣

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