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submitted 1 year ago by nodsocket@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[-] IsThisLemmyOpen@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Not me. I love to live the pirate life and reddit aint so friendly to our kind. Also remember that people can use multiple "social medias". I think only a small group of people will become Lemmy exclusive users, and many Lemmy users would still be using reddit alongside lemmy, maybe not posting as much as they used to, but they will still browse reddit.

[-] Lemon_Man@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The users will go where the content is.

If reddit has 90% of the content it will get 90% of the users. If it has 90% of the users they will generate the content.

It's a chicken and the egg problem that will only changes when someone drops the egg.

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[-] dontforgetthat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'll be using both

[-] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

They're starting by going private for 2 days, but almost unanimously they will continue for longer if reddit doesn't concede. Specifically some of the biggest subreddits like funny and videos, those won't be coming back unless reddit backs off or replaces the moderators.

[-] Lurra@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'm staying since Apollo is shutting down. You can't pay me to use that reddit app. Been using Mlem, not bad. I like the whole simplicity of it, reminded me of the old reddit from years ago.

[-] kitten@lemmy.cablepick.net 2 points 1 year ago

I hope we can create a community that they want to be a part of. It takes a lot more than just lurking like I did at reddit.

[-] eric5949@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Depends upon how many people come over here and how much content gets posted. If most communities are ghost towns a lot less people will stay, if it stays interesting more people will stay. Long term depends how quickly devs can catch up in terms of features and user experience.

[-] kudzu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I like Lemmy much more than reddit and found it harder to use before due to the lack of people. Now that there are more people it's even more fun and I'm hoping others feel similarly :) I don't see a reason to go back to reddit

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[-] Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.

I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.

In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.

If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.

At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.

Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.

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[-] Q320@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We need to educate users and Reddit people to really understand how Lemmy works, and why it's good. People keep giving the email analogy but that may not be enough. I still see a lot of users asking if they need to have an account on every Lemmy instance. We need to explain simply that :

  • You can sub a community that is not local ;
  • There can be two community that are called the same but on different instance (ie: asklemmy@lemmy.ml and asklemmy@lemmy.world) ;
  • Same is for your username. We should also give tips on how to find an instance that is relevant for you and how to find communities.
[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like that last sentence is the most important for me. I was a Reddit /r/all lurker. I just kind of wanted something to look at, latest news, etc. It'd be nice if I could just sign up under an instance which is focused on providing that basic content. Trying to find communities and subscribe to them is a little cumbersome.

Also, though, I'm concerned about scalability. If every Lemmy user wants to subscribe to something like "latest news", aren't they all going to want to sub to the same community on the same instance? Isn't that instance going to become prohibitively expensive to run?

I was a Reddit /r/all lurker. I just kind of wanted something to look at, latest news, etc. It’d be nice if I could just sign up under an instance which is focused on providing that basic content. Trying to find communities and subscribe to them is a little cumbersome.

I haven't really been looking at it to see how well it's working, but this page was built to mimic r/all. It aggregates from these communities as described here.

[-] possibleHipster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going back.

The community search functions are next to useless, the fragmentation of communities makes it harder to manage, and the Jerboa app is infinitely worse than the Reddit main app

[-] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Even is Lemmy isn't right, why not have a look around and see if you can replace Reddit with something else, even if it's a mix of stuff.

This is the beginning of the enshittification of Reddit - it's no longer about providing a good user experience, it's about providing a good corporate experience. This means that the content will get worse and worse , and less and less relevant. Stage 3 is where Reddit fucks over the advertisers and starts making bank, and shortly after that with no users and no corporate support it starts to implode..

And then you will need to move off the platform.

Or - you could move off now. Lemmy is ok, the best for chatting. I've been using Imgur for memes but miss NSFW content, and Lemmy is also very NSFW unfriendly. So for me right now it's a bit of a mix.

I'm working on my own content aggregator with the features of Reddit, but in the end it's just for me if nobody gives a damn and that's ok

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

nahhh. at least not entirely. i'm focusing on feeling more at home here, it'd feel wrong to go back. over the last months the cracks have started to show in reddit to such a degree, i was trying to escape but couldn't quite get committed enough, so this is perfect

i'm sure people will dabble in specific subs but still mainly use lemmy as best as they can

[-] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I will enjoy the last days that Infinity will be operational, after it gets shuttered I will participate more here. I might go back on reddit every now and then to see what r/okbuddychicanery is up to but that is it.

I have no use for the hot garbage official app otherwise.

[-] venuswasaflytrap@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I'm probably going to be on both.

It was pretty surprising how easy it was to create an account and a not-to-bad feed. All of the communities I like don't yet exist on lemmy, but there's nothing preventing them from starting up, and the structure is very good.

Reddit has already created a permanent scar in it's user base. This event has seeded a minority of users on lemmy/kbin/whatever. And there will be more again on July 1 when the various 3rd party apps stop working.

Even if reddit just stops there and doesn't do anymore detrimental things to it's user base that scar is permanent. There's enough users on here now to be self-sustaining for a few small communities at least. And anytime in the future that reddit pulls some shit - which given their corporate structure, it looks like they will - more users are going to look for alternatives and many will end up here.

For someone like me - that'll just mean more time here and less time on reddit, until eventually it'll be only on here - just like Digg, just like Fark, just like all the other ones.

[-] Korlock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't want to go back to reddit but as it stands now I don't see Lemmy/mastadon being it's replacement. You didn't have to read a manual to browse reddit. It was much more intuitive.

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[-] BendyLemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Personally, I am not one to 'choose' so much. I don't feel the need to delete my Reddit or Facebook accounts....

However, I haven't used Facebook for quite a long time - except to contact via messenger a couple of people who only use Facebook AFAIK.

The same can happen to Reddit, if I get more interesting feeds...

[-] oranges@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm here for the long haul.... Reddit accounts have been deleted and time for change :)

[-] chrizbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm making a commitment to lemmy, I am enjoying it although it does feel a little anemic by comparison to the endless content of Reddit..

It really just depends on how well utilised it is going forward I'm happy to stay here for sure but if it ends up a ghost town then I might drop out of the habit of using it (hopefully not though)

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

If it's anything like the incoming waves of new Fedi users, 50-65% will go back to their services of choice and never return to the Fediverse.

[-] plisken@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm never going back (Besides to delete my account).

Lemmy reminds me of when I first joined Reddit. There isn't a constantly changing frontpage (yet). The communities are smaller, but thats a good thing. I actually want to participate.

I've drunk the koolaid. I'm considering starting an instance for my personal professional community that I lost since the pandemic.

Mastodon didnt click for me, but neither did twitter even in its hey-day. Just not my cup of tea. But Lemmy does.

[-] helovesblink182@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually

[-] Philius@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
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[-] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

2 things.

Firstly, most will go back. With the enshittification of twitter in November mastodon experienced an influx of new users. It feels like for several weeks activity doubled, then it died down to about 30% of the increase and stayed there. So while most go back it was still great for Mastodon. Fosstodon users increased from 10k to 60k in a month.

Secondly, it's not a mutually exclusive binary thing. Reddit will always have some great niche communities. There's nothing wrong with following those, but you can also continue to follow some lemmy communities too.

Lemmy doesn't need to become a reddit killer over night. I think for the fediverse in general there will be a few events like this each year, and if the fediverse get's some exposure and increases in size, it just makes it more viable for the next round.

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