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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I'm a bit surprised to see so many torrent posts. Are most people still using Torrents? Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?

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[-] iliketurtles@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Torrents.... Fast, free, and easy

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[-] exonac@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago

What's the problem with torrent?

[-] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Honestly nothing at all, I just prefer the speeds and reliability of Usenet (though I pay for that).

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

Private trackers have great speed and reliability as well. I've been using sonarr and radarr for years but have never bothered with Usenet due to the added cost. They all work great with torrents even though they were originally designed for Usenet.

[-] SexualPolytope 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Torrents. I don't really find Usenet worth the money. I can get most of the stuff I want on public sites. Some others I can get on private trackers. Never really felt the need to use Usenet. And as others have pointed out, the arr apps work great with torrents.

And honestly, I find it a little scummy to pay for content to people who don't own them. I don't think piracy in itself is unethical, but I if you take money for stolen content, that's not cool in my book.

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[-] Ilikeprivacy@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago

I use torrents almost exclusively because of the price (free) and convenience. That is, I can get them easily where I live for no additional cost beyond my low speed internet. I have no extra money at all, at this time in my life, unfortunately.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

Probably a dumb noob question, but shouldn't one use a VPN for privacy when torrenting? Wouldn't that add additional cost?

[-] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 16 points 1 year ago

Live in a third world country and all software is free software. No strings attached

[-] tartarsauce@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

my brother 👏 our authorities are too busy using pirated software to crack down on it. can't imagine some people live in countries where anyone gives half a shit about piracy.

[-] headmetwall@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Some countries just don't care (even if they have laws on piracy), no vpn needed.

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[-] Vamanos@lemmy.fmhy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Honestly had no idea usenet was still a thing. I’m old. Old enough to know usenet and have used it back in the day. But young enough to switch torrenting and not ever really learn another way

Now I have to look up some info!

Usenet costs money, that's why I don't use it.

[-] recklessfrozenroad@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

same. I already pay for VPN. I can't be bothered to figure out how usenet has changed in the almost 20 years since I last was on it.

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[-] RedCanasta@lemmy.fmhy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

I enjoy torrents, searching and deciding which is the best quality + storage combo is right for me is the fun part

[-] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago

I'm not. What are sonarr and radarr and why do you recommend them?

[-] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sonarr and radarr manage downloads for TV and movies in a nice way for Usenet and actually torrents as well. You can set up quality profiles and choose which shows and movies you want to download and they will grab torrents/nzbs that meet your preferences, automatically start them in your torrent app or Usenet downloader, and then organize them in folders with appropriate metadata for Kodi/Plex when the downloads complete. They automate the process very nicely.

Edit, I'm a Usenet guy if that wasn't already clear lol

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

How is Usenet for privacy compared to torrents, e.g. if a usenet service you are paying for is compromised at some stage are they likely to be able to identify you based on payment data for example?

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[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They search indexers and send to downloaders. You can set up a whole *arr suite to automate everything.

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[-] ekZeno@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Antik@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

utorrent

lol

[-] wahming@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?

Sounds like you yourself aren't aware of their capabilities, if you're presenting a false dichotomy of torrents or *arrs

[-] CrescentMadeJr@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

I use the Starr apps with torrents. I kinda just forget all about it since it all just works.

[-] Spectator@lemmy.fmhy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Torrents. Because it's free and fast (if what I'm pirating is famous enough). I started using sites like 1337x, nyaa,rabg🪦 etc.. with qbittorent a few years ago and never had any reason to change.

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[-] Moonblitz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

Torrents for everything, i've found it to be one of the safest ways as well, thanks to all of the other ship mates who seed with me.

[-] LongPigFlavor@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

I've yet to try Usenet. I use Qbitorrent. I've heard of sonarr and radarr, but I haven't used them.

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[-] mr_coffee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

I use torrents and usenet. I have sonarr and radarr configured to fetch from both.

I like using both because they each have different strengths. Usenet tends to be faster, but torrents tend to have longer retention and a wider variety of content.

[-] Sanrasxz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Torrents work great for my needs and I prefer them. Haven't really messed with usenet much.

[-] GeekFTW@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Are most piracy users aware of programs like sonarr or radarr?

Of course we are, hell that's what I use with my torrents. They aren't just for usenet lol

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Torrents are free. I use both, but it's always a choice whether or not to renew Usenet.

[-] sheepcoin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Torrents+Real Debrid and IPTV have taken care of all my media streaming needs.

I do have Sonarr/Radarr setup, but streaming via debrid works so well I haven't needed to use them much.

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[-] MedicareForSome@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I still use torrents sometimes but almost exclusively use Usenet these days. For Plex/jellyfin servers it’s pretty unbeatable.

Torrents are mostly stuff like audiobooks from audiobookbay and myanonymouse and games from repackers like Fitgirl.

I mean usenet costs money and torrents don’t.

[-] Atheran@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Sonarr and radarr can use torrents just as much as they can use usenet. I used them for both, now I dropped usenet altogether.

I find it easier to either DDL or torrent, plus a lot of the stuff I'm after recently proved hard tto find on usenet for whatever reason.

It's more hassle to search usenet for my usecase and while it's true that maxing out download speeds is awesome, I'm not in a hurry. I let the .arr apps do the work while I'm busy with life and when I get back home I have it all ready anyways.

[-] CleeBrummie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Been using Usenet for 28 years, I use torrents if I can't find it on Usenet

[-] factionparadoxes@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Torrenting with a seedbox for me. I'm aware of Sonarr/Radarr and other automation tools but I don't feel like I have the need for them. Some part of me enjoys the manual search and management. Never touched Usenet though it's in the mental "maybe try later" bin.

[-] jws_shadotak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'd recommend giving Sonarr and Radarr a try at least. Setup is pretty straight forward but it goes way in depth if you want to work out the little intricacies of managing your media.

Setting them up via docker is highly recommended.

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] ThrowawayAfterDark@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Usenet. Been using it consistently for over 10 years now. I only torrent when I can't find something on usenet. So not too often. Plus Usenet just maxes out my download speed on everything. It's so freaking fast compared to torrents. I gladly pay for that.

[-] peril30@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

I have no knowledge of usenet. How do I get started?

[-] hydra@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

A quick run down: Get yourself a Usenet client (akin to qbittorent for example). SABnzbd is the most popular, free, and open source.

Next you will need an Indexer (similar to a torrent site like The Pirate Bay). There are a lot of these and you will usually need to pay (most are like 10-20 per year, some are free, but it may be hard to find content on the only free sites) to access an indexer. A good paid one I used was NZBgeek. Another is NZB Finder which has free accounts (with some restrictions).

Last thing you need is a Usenet Provider (these are the companies that actually host the files you download). You will need to pay for this for sure and most people actually pay for 2-3 Usenet providers (most only host things for a certain time and content can get taken down due to DMCA). There are a ton of options to choose from and you can mix and match is so many diffrent ways, but Frugal Usenet is pretty popular (if you pay for yearly, they give you an account for another Usenet provider that you can use as a partial backup). I always paired it with UseNight (just has speed restrictions depending on time, but its a great backup) which is very cheap per year. I don't want to get to technical, but I will mention it incase people want to take the Usenet dive. When buying multiple providers, do NOT buy them if they are from the same backbone! You can refer to this chart to help figure out the main ones. Content that gets taken down via DMCA is pretty much removed at the backbone level and will affect every provider under it (I know the free account from Frugal is the same backbone, but that's just for backup in case of outages).

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[-] thefool@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I just switched to Usenet after using torrents for the past couple of years. The difference is night and day

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Couldn't ever find people to get invites from for private torrents and didn't want to mooch in forums where no one knew me so Usenet it is.

[-] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

about 90% Usenet for me.

[-] open_door@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

I've never used Usenet... I'm really not familiar with it, tbh. I just DDL or stream everything lol.

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[-] Cantstopthesignal@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago

I used to use usenet religously, but it became fairly unreliable after a crackdown on NZBMatrix and I haven't really tried it in years. Is it fairly decent again? Lately I use Syncler for streaming through Real Debrid, and pass torrents through that service also.

[-] JC1@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I use sonarr, radarr (3x), prowlarr and overseer. I get most of what I need from usenet. I have most public teachers too as backup. I want to get stuff in their original language, so it's fine.

But lately I'm looking for multi language (English+French) stuff and I'm having a hard time finding that. On usenet there's nothing and torrents, there are too few french trackers.

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[-] PonceDeLeon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I only ever used Usenet back in the day when my college threatened to shut off my internet if there was any more p2p traffic.

[-] GameEnder@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I use both. Rarr Stack and Sabnzbd and alldbird and a program that emulates qtorent.

Have found that some content is just easier to find on one platform or the other.

[-] Manuel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Well to be fair it depends on personal preference rather than a technology being better than other. I used to torrent everything but nowadays I just subscribed to RD and with Stremio or Kodi + Trakt I got everything I need without having to worry for searching.

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