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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't talk to the police, especially in an interrogation room. Ask for a lawyer. Say nothing else.

Say. Nothing. Else. Nothing.

The police are not there to help you. If you are in an interrogation room, that is because they have already decided that they are going to do everything possible and then some to pin some kind of crime -- any kind of crime -- on you. Even if you didn't do it. Don't try to explain yourself. Don't try to "weasel out of" anything. Nothing you say to the police will help you, everything you say will be used against you.

Don't talk to the police.

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[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technically, you should say that you’re invoking your right to an attorney, and your fifth amendment right to remain silent.

Courts have ruled that if you don’t explicitly say you’re invoking your fifth amendment rights, then they don’t apply and your silence can be used against you.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Which is fucking crazy because the Supreme Court has also ruled that you don't really need to have your Miranda Rights read to you.

[-] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They still are required to read Miranda rights before interrogating or questioning you

EDIt: Only if you are in custody, see the response below.

[-] Vent@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

That is very false and it is a dangerous myth because it will cause people to have their guards lowered.

Police can and will ask you as many incriminating questions as they want whenever they want without mentioning anything about rights. They can even pull you aside and privately question you without Miranda rights. Miranda rights only apply under specific circumstances, which cops will purposefully avoid as much as possible.

[-] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If you are arrested or detained, they have to read you your Miranda rights before questioning you, otherwise your responses will have limited use in court due to the exclusionary clause. What they can do, and I believe is important to be more specific about, is question you without arresting or detaining you. If you aren't arrested or detained, they don't need to read you your rights, but once they are done questioning, they can then detain you and use your responses against you.

Key takeaways: police are not required to read your Miranda rights if you are not currently in custody. Police are not required to read your Miranda rights to arrest you. Police are required to read you your Miranda rights if you are in custody and being interrogated. If they do not read your rights, your responses during interrogation will have limited use in court. As always, the best thing to do, is invoke your 5th and lawyer up.

[-] Vent@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks for taking the time to write this! It's valuable information everyone should know.

To reiterate for others reading: police will question you under the heavy implication that you have no choice (you do) without technically detaining you in order to avoid Miranda rights. After questioning, they can then officially arrest/detain you, still without Miranda rights, because they already got everything they needed before that point.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] TheBaldFox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago
[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I was expecting the Pot Brothers At Law, but this is an excellent video I'd never seen before. It ought to be seen by everyone who's 'invited' to a conversation with a cop.

[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It’s Shut the Fuck Up Fridays!

[-] TheTurducken@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Teen Vogue has chosen to produce good journalism. Good on them. Sooner or later they will get the Pulitzer they deserve.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It seems wacky and you're probably joking, but Teen Vogue has solid news and political coverage. It's in my news surf cycle, has been for years.

[-] TheTurducken@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

I am not joking. They keep showing up with solid stuff.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Truth. It always surprises me, but Teen Vogue rocks.

Fashion!
Celebrities!
What's the best lip gloss?
What private equity does looks a lot like looting.

[-] Pointy_Dorito@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Learn about the REID technique (police interrogation procedure in North America) guys. Important for everyone here to be educated on it.

[-] mdd@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

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