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All this new excitement with Lemmy and federation has got me thinking that maybe I should learn to run my own instance. What always comes up though is how email is the orginal federated technology.

I am looking at proxmox and see that is has a built in email server, so now I am wondering if it is time to role my own.

I stopped using gmail a long time ago, and right now I use ProtonMail, but I am super frustrated with the dumb limitation of only having a single account for the app. I get why they do it, and I am willing to pay, but it is pricey and I don't know if that is my best option. I guess it is worth it since ProtonVPN is included. It looks like they are expanding their suite.

Is it worth it? Can I make it secure? Is it stupid to run it off a local computer on my home network?

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[–] SmugBedBug@lemmy.iswhereits.at 2 points 2 years ago

Very interesting. Thanks for the follow up.

[–] givingsomelove@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I just decommissioned the mail server I was running, because I didn't have the capacity with the rest of life to keep on top of it. Mailu was my choice of suite, and it was really great once I figured out how to get it behaving nicely behind my reverse proxy. For the most part it was low maintenance, but I would occasionally have issues with cert renewal and subsequently my email clients would stop connecting. I didn't have issues with non-delivery once I set up the various DNS records and did a lot of test emails that I could mark as not junk to various providers. I ended up switching to using icloud+, which includes email with a custom domain. Would I host my own email again? Possibly if I really need more than 6 addresses. But icloud+ costs less per month than the power consumption of the tiny server I was running mailu on over 3 days. Which is... Not insignificant in the current financial climate.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I want to do a setup where i use mailcow at home for receiving emails but Amazon ses SMTP for sending, it's possible? Looks like it is, but i didn't investigate it

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

You could set it up, but the necessary DNS settings are usually not possible with a standard consumer contract.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I am not keen on using any Amazon services. Working at a warehouse near the holidays, on top of all the evidence of awful labor conditions, makes me never want to give them my money ever again.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have run my own email server, and have worked in the commercial web hosting sector.

Honestly, I wouldn't run your own email except as a side project.

It's certainly possible and all the tools are available and easy enough to use, but email in general is a rough combo of super old, and a "big target".

The super old part means that a lot of things that we might consider standard for a modern federated system just aren't there for email. Security is profoundly lacking, and if something gets dropped because of an update, or your computer crashed, there's no guarantee that the system will find a way to get it to you, and the sender might not even know it didn't get to you.

Security wise, you basically have to set everything up correctly all at once, or some system somewhere between you and the recipient will just throw the messages away, and they may or may not tell you.
They do this because all the tools are old, crufty and there's a lot of good exploits that misconfiguration leaves open that automated tools can use to send spam.

Be sure to keep your computer fully patched, and install a malware scanner, even on Linux.

Ultimately, I wouldn't bother running one because the ratio of reward to work is just off for me. I would recommend setting something up for an afternoon though, just so you can see how the pieces work, and get to send yourself an email and know what steps it took.

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[–] cow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I run my own on digitalocean. I used https://github.com/lukesmithxyz/emailwiz to set it up. I do not use it as my main email account. Relating to hosting it with your own hardware, your isp probably blocks forwarding port 25 which would make that impossible.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, I knew there was a gotcha. Yeah, I can't even entertain the idea of local email server... Well, sure, maybe some kind of intranet for family and friends, but they none of them really care for this stuff.

I am familiar with Luke Smith, hell I have probably seen the video explaining this. I jist thought it was like a CLI mail client. I will look into it.

[–] Protegee9850@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

“No. No, man. Hell no. No, i imagine someone would get their ass kicker if they said something like that”

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