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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is a legitimate line of research, but the headline is misleading.

For the most part all nations can and are feeding themselves. It's saying they can't produce a balanced diet domestically, they rely on trade.

It would be like saying "Most people can't attain clean drinking water." Sure, I can't install plumbing myself, and I don't have a water treatment plant. But I do have clean drinking water. I pay the town for the supply, and I pay a plumber to install pipes in my house.

What the study is highlighting is that in the event of a disruption to trade, like a war or new nationalist policies, pretty much all countries could face difficulties. Of course countries and people make changes to their behavior based on changes in circumstance, and a balanced diet is different than a life or death diet.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

This is not correct. Most middle eastern and some African countries would face starvation if the import of grain stops.

Their population are way above natural carrying capacity for their land and only some have capital to over come that issue with modern technology

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I think you misunderstood what I said. For the most part countries are currently feeding themselves: because of trade. Yes, if trade is disrupted they will have a problem. That's what the research study was about, but the headline is misleading.

[–] krawutzikaputzi@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The comment you replied to said for the most part all nations could feed themselves. And also said they might be able to feed themselves but not get the necessary nutrition. Maybe the truth is in the middle of both of your comments.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 hours ago

I guess if your standard for survival 51% of countries population the!n I guess it is right, they can mostly feed themselves if half the country dies lol

Look at population of egypt and their domestic food production. How many people can the land support? 40 million?

Algeria Tunis KSA?

[–] VonVoelksen@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Iapetus@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Only because dairy isn't commonly eaten by most people in China.

[–] solo@slrpnk.net 9 points 17 hours ago

Just found the following article on the same topic, and since it is a better one, I thought of adding it here:

Only one nation is self-sufficient in healthy food