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(and why conservatives hate public schools, ofc)

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[–] mang0@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

When the Scandinavian countries were struggling in 18/19th century, they used to put tree bark in their bread due to not having access to enough proper ingredients. Feels similar to putting sawdust in food.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 56 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Adulterating consumable foods has been a thing for a really long time. From tea having poisonous weeds mixed in the 1600s to milk having chalk or other toxic stuff in it. Commercial interests put profit first and “cut” the product to extend profitability.

Good thing they’re cutting oversight like the FDA in the US. That’ll work out great.

[–] tunetardis@piefed.ca 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This reminds me of a story my dad told me. His school went on a field trip to an ice cream factory and he was, of course, expecting this to be the best day of his life. What he discovered, though, left him mortified. They were taking poor-selling flavours and running them back through the machine to change them to something better. If you buy some store brand chocolate and it has undertones of mocha, now you know why. I think of this now whenever I see a product that "may contain peanuts". Like they're not sure.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don’t know how that’s possible with shelf life considerations, but I guess it could happen? Usually the rules are it has to be thrown out.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They aren't taking them back from the retail stores.

They are taking them out from a production run, from storage facilities.

ah, no idea what workarounds are available to that situation. Guess if it’s only been packaged and never shipped it might be ok? Not desirable, but not unsafe.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Rules are only for when you're caught and have to pay for 'operating' costs.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Talking to a Libertarian is like talking to a child.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Every self-proclaimed libertarian I ever met gave me a different reason why they're a "libertarian", bashed fake libertarians, say they're the only TRUE libertarian, then voted Republican.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Yeah, they're Republicans with even more brain damage and not a single one understands how societies work.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago

I remember thinking I was a libertarian for a few years after I realized the conservative world I was raised in was nuts.

What I had essentially done, though, was shed the bigotry first because I cared about people, while keeping the conservative/capitalist economic mindset because accumulation of assets and efficient use of capital are just what good human beings strive for in that world. I’m a Libertarian! I am pure and very intelligent!

But then that pesky thing about respecting the lives of other people never left my head. And my eyes and ears kept working while the last couple decades happened. And I unfortunately value annoyances like high quality evidence, demonstrated expertise, and the scientific method.

It didn’t take long to connect the dots that the policies that are best for short-term capital and those that are best for sentient human beings (never mind all other life) may not always align, and that choosing the former over the latter is kinda… what’s the word… evil.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Libertarian: I can't hear you with so much money I have!

Libertarians are only in tiny minority of US population, and most of them are earning roughly $100,000 a year. Of course they will support absolute laissez faire society.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Is that why they're all into children?

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Schools still assign Upton Sinclair? I can tell you for certain that mine did not, likely because they were busy suppressing any mentions of socialism.

Hey why do they call it an "ecomomics" class anyway, shouldn't they just call it capitalism if that's the only thing they teach?

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

at my high school they made us read fucking ayn rand

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

We were required to read Ayn Rand.

yeah it's wild how many schools skip over Sinclair! The Jungle literally led to the creation of the FDA because people were horrified by the meat industry. Schools that only teach "economics" without covering labor history are missing half the story. My high school tried that too - all Adam Smith, no context about why regulations exist in the frist place.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I heard his wife was Meta.

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