Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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The app is definitely fully encrypted and not reading your messages!
Sadly EU goes this way too
In Russia app installs you.
It definitely won’t lead to any surprise defenestrations.
Look at this normie having a solid jk 🤡
Oh no! 😟 Why do they not just use state trojans and other hidden government spyware like the west? 🤔
Because they aren't smart enough to
They don't need to lie about it.
They lack the necessary faith... They rely on weak sauce westoid propaganda 🐸
Got to ensure the right guy is data mining
WhatsApp with extra steps
with extra spyware
Apparently you don't know about Meta?
"Extra" spyware implies there was already spyware, so they're still correct
Just funnels the data to different people.
I wonder how bad it is compared to whatsapp.
Depends on how you rate Putin reading your messages against Zuckerberg reading your messages.
In one case, your data gets sold, but in the other you get thrown out a window.
Oh, no, Russian government ends up leaking each and every piece of information it has for 50 rubles per person through sheer incompetence. So, you are both flying out the window and getting your data sold.
Oh yeah, so it’s a 2-for-1 deal.
Lol. Never heard of a National Security Letter in the US?
WhatsApp uses the Signal protocol for end-to-end encryption, so Meta only collects the metadata. Still enough to convict, but better than anything from Putin.
Not when Meta works with NSO group to backdoor the app. Then they can read all your messages.
Has there been any evidence of that? Intercepting the traffic or disassembling the app would show some signs if true.
Yeah dude, tons. Look at Citizen Lab's work. They did an very detailed exposé with Amnesty International too
A vulnerability allowing to exploit an app is not the same thing as a backdoor. Moreover, being able to gain full access to someone's device does not prove that an app's end-to-end encryption is faulty. The same kind of exploit most likely could be used to read messages from Signal and definitely other apps.
That's my point. The e2ee is worthless marketing because they work with cybermercinary groups to ensure they have exploits to gain access to the device.
NSLs require backdoors. Meta is a US corporation. But, sure, you can pretend that these exploits aren't intentional. That's their plausible deniability.
Likewise, you can pretend to be sure it's a backdoor without any proof and then also believe there's more that's not been exposed. Signal is also US-based, by the way. What software do you trust not to have vulnerabilities that could be abused by the likes of NSO Group and why?
SimpleX is probably best. Wire is much more practical for day to day, but the metadata in Wire might literally get you killed.
Gonna have to explain that last part there chief. What's wire?
Not sure why this got downvoted. Was there any real proofs that WhatsApp msgs can get decrypted and read by the central server?
Besides the AI shit that is optional. Not advocating for WhatsApp but we need to keep the conspiracy theory out of the equation.
Does this mean HBO needs to change their name again?
The amount of steganographic cat memes is growing rapidly on the web.
Gonna save this when i'll need it.
I don't think plausible deniability will give you much sway when you're dealing with the Russian government.
Does it come with state mandated AI like WhatsApp?
Does anyone have a complete list? The article says there's a package manager and video/TV streaming app and this chat app. What about money transfers and banking? Does this Max app do email?
Lmao joining north korea in having an "encrypted" messenger pre-installed I see.
lool
No word about it not be allowed to be frozen. You can freeze apps; still there but can't run. Don't even need root for that, if the app is not baked in the system.
Russian companies order all new devices to be wiped and installed fresh.
spyware in