As Smartphone Industry Sputters, the iPhone Expands Its Dominance (www.nytimes.com)

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As Smartphone Industry Sputters, the iPhone Expands Its Dominance::Apple, which is set to release a new iPhone on Tuesday, has increased its share of smartphone sales by converting Android customers and adding teenagers.

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[-] Maven 97 points 11 months ago

Unless an iphone becomes literally the only option, I don't see myself ever getting one. I'm deeply morally opposed to their walled-garden approach, and I won't even get one Samsung's Androids for the same reason. It would be nice for me if there was more people like me, but regardless, as long as there's a freer option, I'll be taking it.

[-] zzzzzz@lemmy.ml 66 points 11 months ago

It's too bad Android didn't lean more into it's relative freedom. Instead, almost all Android manufacturers have followed Apple's lead closely. I have to believe there'd be a sizeable market for a flagship Android phone with, say, a removable battery, headphone jack, SD card slot, and an easily unlocked bootloader.

[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

They exist, they just aren’t popular because most people don’t care.

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[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 10 months ago

Bootloader a are usually pretty easy to unlock, it's Safetynet that is the biggest problem these days. Though you can generally sandbox it a little bit with a custom ROM. If, however, you try to keep it stock and have it rooted with Magisk it can be a nightmare depending on the manufacturer.

[-] whitewall@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Aside from maybe the headphone jack, those are all features that enthusiasts want but average consumers don't care about enough to compromise on size, waterproofing or price.

Smartphones depend so much on economies of scale, and a limited pool of cutting edge components, it would be hard to sustain a niche market just for enthusiasts.

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[-] serratur@lemmy.wtf 28 points 11 months ago

Its like picking between different types of cancer, its either walled garden or a privacy nightmare.

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[-] foggy@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm just opposed to their brand ethos. They always complicate things in the name of simplicity.

apple mice have 1 button to click, and that this decision was made (in the 80s) because they thought 2 button mice would confuse the average user.

... and now apple users command + click all the time, like that isn't more complicated.

That's not why I hate apple, but it is why I hate apple. They perpetually put the cart before the horse.

"We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment"

Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment. 🤦‍♂️

Edit: God you apple stans are annoying af. I guess y'all are just an extension of their obnoxious ethos lol.

[-] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Apple Mice have had right click for 14 years, and their trackpads have used two finger click in its place far longer than that. And before that, any two button mouse worked just fine in OS X from 2001 on (earlier if you ran the beta of OS X). So your information is anywhere from two decades to one and a half decades out of date. Well done.

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[-] akafester@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment"

Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment.

How so? That thought only works if you think they still manufacture the same amount of chargers and package them. Which would be pretty dumb given that they aren’t guaranteed a sell. Also, who doesn’t have a bunch of different chargers already?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

You can Google for the myriad of reports on this very topic.

Here's the top result.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/16/21519466/apple-iphone-12-chargers-airpods-greenhouse-gas-emissions-e-waste

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[-] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Lmao, are you forgetting they also changed the cable from standard usb to lightning to USB c to lightning after they stopped including the brick?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, because everything is transitioning to USB-C and that’s a good thing. They made that switch when they removed USB A ports from their Macs.

[-] TheCannonball@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

They only made the jump to USB-C because they were forced to. They would have loved to stay on their proprietary hardware for as long as possible.

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[-] EddieTee77@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

I agree with you and the OP of this thread. I don't want to support a company with a walled garden approach and they over complicate things to be unique

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[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What phone did you end up choosing?

[-] Maven 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I went with the Motorola G Stylus 5g. It's not perfect, but it does have an SD slot, a headphone jack, FM radio, an easily unlocked bootloader, and a built-in stylus I didn't expect to care about but which I have grown weirdly dependent on. I just wish it had a removable battery.

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[-] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Outside the US, no one cares. Most people use WhatsApp and they don't care what hardware it runs on.

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[-] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

It doesn't help Google is locking down android more and more with each release,inching closer and closer to Apple's shitty philosophy without the same guaranteed support.

[-] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago

I kinda wonder if there will be any US device makers left? I guess mg biggest fear is let's say iPhone uses up 90% marketshare in the US than releases a new standard for cell carriers and they drop support for anything but iOS.

[-] dtrain@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Monopolistic companies: “This is the way”

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Imagine traveling to the USA requiring an iphone. Rip tourism

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago

Between iPhone and Android, I choose PostmarketOS.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Wireless providers, much like auto dealers, offer discounts and monthly payment plans that make it more affordable to buy the latest model.

The stigma associated with having green text messages is so pronounced that when it came time for Dave Storrs’s 14-year-old son to get his first smartphone, the teenager told his father that he wanted an iPhone or no phone at all.

For more than a decade, he took pride in being what he called an “Android renegade.” He owned a series of LG and Motorola phones, even as his son and other family members pressed him to buy an iPhone.

The migration from Android to Apple has accelerated as promotional discounts, financing plans and trade-in offers make higher iPhone prices less of a barrier.

In 2017, Apple began working with government officials to start manufacturing iPhones locally, a move that has improved affordability by avoiding import tariffs.

The new flagship iPhones that Apple is set to unveil this week will feature speedier processors, more sophisticated cameras and titanium rather than stainless steel cases, according to supply chain analysts.

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[-] TheCuriousCoder87@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

IPhone or no phone at all? Ok, you have your wish. No phone.

[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I am a big Apple guy, but this is not healthy. I wish Google would step up their game.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

I'll just stick with lineage os

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