50
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml

https://www.initiative-cwpe.org/en/news/ON-THE-TERMINATION-OF-THE-ACTIVITY-OF-THE-EUROPEAN-COMMUNIST-INITIATIVE/

North Korea has also taken steps to strengthen the so-called "free economic zones", the "market", where the Workers' Party of Korea for several years has rejected Marxism-Leninism, promotes the idealistic theory "Juche", talks about "Kimilsugism - Kimgyongilism", violating every concept of socialist democracy, workers' people's control, within a regime of nepotism.

https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/The-International-role-of-China

all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] qwename@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 10 months ago

I read the article from KKE and thought maybe they changed their mind as it was published in 2010, then I went to their homepage and saw this: https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/On-the-war-in-Ukraine-and-Chinas-proposals-for-peace/. This is the last line:

The Chinese dragon with its economic and political resources is claiming what it believes to be its rightful place, including at the heart of Europe.

[-] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The truth is that the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was only the formal declaration of a war that had been going on for years between the US-NATO-EU powers, which are using Ukraine as their spearhead, and capitalist Russia, which is being utilized as China’s cushion in the latter's acute conflict with the USA over supremacy in the imperialist system.

Welp. KKE's bought and paid for, huh?

I find the concept of Russia being China's "cushion" just... it's just such interesting alt-history. China is using Russia as a buffer against the U.S. in their inter-imperialist conflict over Ukraine. Fascinating stuff.

Russia must have become significantly smaller and weaker when I wasn't looking, since it somehow became a Chinese satellite state hellbent on furthering Beijing's imperial agenda.

I knew they'd keep taking massive Ls after they doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on supporting tailist homophobic garbage.

[-] geikei@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

KKE is probably the most CIA/spook proof communist party in the west. Its just that through sheer "antirevisionism",older leadership and refusal to update their analysis they basicaly have arived at a maoist/leftcom position on China. Also yeah they do suck on lgbt issues (even tho they have very slowly be moving towards less reactionary positions, especially as the youth league and youth vote share grew a bunch) but idk by what standards they keep taking massive Ls. Relative to pretty much every western "communist" party they are doing very good and are probably at their strongest in decades rn. This doesnt say much since most countries dont even have a non irrelevant non socdem communist party with strong grassroots and union organizing, being at the forefront of a lot of the most important class struggle issues in Greece and netting wins. A bunch of the most prominent ones in recent being union struggles against Chinese multinationals that have bought large parts of the port of Piraeus so that may explain some of the China stance too

[-] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago

It's been the other way arround, before 2015 they supported the DPRK, now they dont.

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Ah racism it is then.

[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

A tale as old as Marx

[-] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 10 months ago

From the comments here, it seems they are being run by sellouts. This is bad, it's how the PCF collapsed.

[-] geikei@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

Nah they just , by some weird twists and turns and historical context, have arived in basicaly an ultra left/maoist/heavy leftcom analysis of a bunch of international issues including China. Extremely weird cause they are equaly anti-maoist/ anti-leftcom. It just some brainworms thats very hard to explain. The party still has more positives and wins to show than almost any other communist party in the west in modern times , which of course doesnt say much. If it was run by sellouts they had plenty chances to go eurocommunist through the decades

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

have arived in basicaly an ultra left/maoist/heavy leftcom analysis of a bunch of international issues including China.

Sp left-deviationist instead of right-deviationist, just as dangerous.

this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
50 points (93.1% liked)

Leftist Infighting: A community dedicated to allowing leftists to vent their frustrations

1282 readers
1 users here now

The purpose of this community is sort of a "work out your frustrations by letting it all out" where different leftist tendencies can vent their frustrations with one another and more assertively and directly challenge one another. Hostility is allowed, but any racist, fascist, or reactionary crap wont be tolerated, nor will explicit threats.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS