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submitted 1 year ago by mo_ztt@lemmy.world to c/meta@lemmy.ml

So I'm part of a discussion about moderation on lemmy.ml, and it seems better to ask the community directly instead of continuing to speculate from a distance: What's the attitude here towards political debate and specifically criticism of the Chinese government? Is that allowed, or will mods delete it?

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[-] Habnab@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago
[-] frevaljee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Wow... Are there any good instances that aren't run by tankies?

I came here from reddit and picked lemmy.ml without much thought, but if even the largest instances are run by genocide apologists, that doesn't bode well for the rest of the site.

[-] Habnab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

kbin.social, different platform not associated with tankies.

It shares content with Lemmy and the rest of the fediverse

[-] frevaljee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I will look into that, thanks! I am very new to this whole fediverse thing, but will a kbin account work with a lemmy app like jerboa? kbin doesn't seem to have an app of its own (yet)

[-] Habnab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No jerboa doesn't support kbin accounts and there's no kbin app ready yet, I believe it's being worked on.

However the kbin website works quite well on mobile and I believe you can install it as a "progressive web app" which is like taking the website and making it an app with a shortcut.

[-] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't care about criticizing China, but my brother in christ, the "genocide" lie was debunked so long ago, that it doesn't surprise me that China supporters get pissed every time they see someone still spreading that.

[-] frevaljee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Sure you don't. And yes I forgot, those Uyghurs just fell down the stairs ¯⁠\⁠_⁠༼⁠ ⁠•́⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ⁠•̀⁠ ⁠༽⁠_⁠/⁠¯

I love how specific this got, I didn't even mention or refer to china specifically. There are quite a few communist regimes and genocides to choose from.

[-] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Uyghurs falling down stairs? I would love to read more on that very serious and real problem. Oh, and how could I have guessed you were talking about the exact same subject of the comment you were replying to? Very specific indeed.

Anyway, now I see you're just a troll purposefully spreading sinophobia, sorry for misjudging your character for someone well intended before.

[-] frevaljee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure they have a story on the topic in your party's newspaper.

It is not against chinese people/sinophobia to criticise the chinese totalitarian government. But you useful idiots don't seem to grasp/pretend not to grasp that distinction.

[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So... just FWIW, I've been talking about China and North Korea, a little bit, in posts on both lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, and as far as I can tell nothing's been deleted and I haven't been banned. I'm not saying the moderation Habnab linked to didn't happen, but that doesn't mean it's universal in the present day on lemmy.ml, and it hasn't been my experience.

This post on lemmy.world actually was removed, but that seems more likely to do with "I don't want this debate here" and less to do with "I object to one particular side of this debate."

I'm still on the fence about the "Is this an actual problem" question, just sharing my data on it so far. YMMV

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