@IsThisLemmyOpen Reddit is not dead, yet.

YouTube won't die anytime soon because running a Video Streaming Platform is way too expensive if you're not a big company. So there's no good alternatives. PeerTube Instances couldn't handle the massive data that YouTube can

I don't think anything will ever replace YouTube. Did you ever wonder why there aren't many good alternatives?

It's because video streaming websites are very expensive and usually run at a loss. The storage and bandwidth to support all these users constantly uploading and watching videos is really high. It's why the Twitch competitor Mixer shut down a few years ago, it was bleeding money.

I use an adblocker and hate ads as much as the next person but imo prople do take these video services for granted. They need ads to survive and I can't imagine a world where I'd need to pay a subscription to use them.

i think youtube is doing much better than reddit

Reddit is far from dead. Most of the subs I care about are back.

You got PeerTube but the amount of content is obviously inferior.

You also got Odysee which is based on the LBRY network.

Can anyone eli5 why pornhub doesn't just use their long standing streaming infrastructure to create a sfw site like... Idk "VidHub"? I feel like they could be a genuine competition with very little adjustment.

Reddit isnt dead yet, and it will be much harder for youtube to die. Kinda hard to make creators move when its their job, and without them moving, there is no chance of any progress occuring.

Right now, the best thing they can do is host their content on youtube AND other alternatives like Odyssey. This lets them make the same money they always had, but also gives people an option to watch it somewhere else. Unfortuately, your average youtuber is completely clueless about this option and so you mainly only see tech people doing it with only a few exceptions here and there.

Youtube is far too expensive for anyone to try and run a competitor to. I don't think we'll ever see a replacement.

Google is still losing money on it, and might never make it profitable. There's a real risk that Youtube just dies on its own and nothing replaces it.

It depends on how long people will desire long form video content. Maybe 15 years?

Peer Tube could take off by us uploading to it and linking it from Lemmy

Reddit is dead?

Not sooner as someone figuring out a way for cheaper video hosting. I don't think youtube is even profitable.

There are already many other sites and as YouTube keeps getting worse and greedier there will probably be more and more creators going elsewhere.

One example is firearms content moving to utreon. And obviously nsfw which has never been welcome there being available on many other hosts.

YouTube is not the only possible video service that can exist in the world.

It's unlikely that another monopoly can take over their business as a whole, but YouTube can definitely fail and video hosting has long been fragmented.

Odysee and Rumble are actually really solid alternatives to YouTube. They're just missing the content. No, they're not as good as YouTube, but they're good enough.

Why Youtube in particular? Did they unfurl some nasty change like reddit?

No one has solved a way to make hosting massive amounts of videos cheap, and this is unlikely to happen anytime soon due to the large amount of data storage and bandwidth required.

So no, even if YouTube somehow becomes even more tyrannical than it is it’s unlikely we’ll ever see it decentralized and federated the way Lemmy is in a usable way anytime soon.

Maybe when technology gets to a certain point all that data storage will be a lot cheaper. Atm the best alternative I have seen is Dailymotion but they are nowhere near the scale of youtube.

Never, the big name content creators will never boycott YouTube like Reddit mods for large subs did because YouTube pays them and no one takes alternatives seriously enough to even just mirror their content on an alternative. I've been trying to support YouTube alternatives as much as I can but I'm only one person, I'd be naive to think that I alone could make a difference.

Reddit is dead?

It will be very hard to replace YouTube. Google barely making money from it, if any. The storage you need to host so many videos (some 4k) for free is insane.

I don't think there is a chance of that happening anytime soon, especially when Twitch is deciding to send their Live Streamers that way due to their bad decisions.

I wish PeerTube (or other similar alternatives) would seriously take off. But the cost of operating such a service at a large scale, and the fact that most content creators don't even try to find or to set up alternatives, makes it very hard for YouTube to fail. It's pretty sad because many of these same content creators will frequently complain about censorship and demonetization, without actually doing anything about it…

Don’t give them ideas