If you're having issues with NextCloud being slow and having errors, it's probably because the machine you are running it on is low on RAM and/or CPU.
I bring this up because what ever replacements you try would likely have the same issues.
My NextCloud instance was nearly unusable when I had it on a Raspberry PI 3, but when I moved it to a container on my faster machine (AMD Ryzen 7 4800U with 16GB of ram) it now works flawlessly.
The backing database type and the storage it runs on are just as important too.
I agree with this. It needs a good amount of CPU cycle and RAM. Raspi struggled for me too.
What exactly have you tried to do to address your nextCloud problems?
Same and looking forward to the responses here. Nextcloud is too big and complicated. I deployed Immich to cover for the photo library. Still looking for a good solution for notes though.
Sorry to hear you've had a bad experience. I've been running the lsio Nextcloud docker container for 4 years without any issues at all.
I have my issues with Nextcloud, but it's still, by far, the best solution I've come across.
I was on the same boat when I was running NC on a container. I switched to VM, and most of my issues have been resolved, but collabora. I am currently using the built-in collabora server, which is slow.
You have not stated the hardware you are running this on. It makes a huge difference. Hope this is not Raspi?
Files: SYNCTHING CalcardDav: Baikal Notes: Obsidian with livesync plugin and a couchdb as backend ...yeah and webdav for folder shares inside apples files app
Good ole manual file sharing and syncthing for my phone pics
I moved Nextcloud from k8s to a well provisioned lxc container and ran a couple of performance boosting commands and it's been working wonders since then
Nextcloud was painfully slow on a cheap HDD based VPS, I finally moved it to SSD and it's been fast. With redis and SSD its quick. I'd take a look at your system to make sure that's not the cause.
Me as well I don’t like nextcloud at all
Need something like synology drive but open source
PSA: saying "I run Nextcloud and don't have any problems" doesn't help anyone or contribute anything useful to the conversation. It just makes you look like an insecure fanboy.
The OP is exactly the same but in reverse. I haven't had any issues but using MariaDB instead of default SQL.
Disagree, seeing as OP has not posted anything other than "I run Nextcloud and have problems", providing a counter is straightforward and expected.
But they didn't ask for help making nextcloud better, they asked for alternatives.
Well, the comments were helpful to me, in trying to determine if I want to put effort into setting up Nextcloud. A post full of alternatives, with people saying that Nextcloud is buggy? Obviously, look at the alternatives.
A post full of comments saying "you shouldnt have those issues, want some help troubleshooting your config" and a couple alternatives? Probably worth looking into Nextcloud rather than writing it off.
No, it makes you look insecure about your objectivity. Spreading FUD about a FOSS project isn't helpful, and it's usually down to misconfiguration or poor hardware that it doesn't run properly.
I see plenty of folks who think they've got Redis setup but are following crap guides, so it isn't working.
Don't bother the Nextcloud hivemind is too strong.
I open source my homelab as much as I can. But when it comes to backups of my family's photos, servers, and laptops I don't want troubleshoot bugs that could cost me valuable data and time; that's why I gladly pay for a Synology NAS.
I use linuxserver.io's nextcloud docker image. While I've seen people struggle to setup Nextcloud properly to the point of just giving and installing the snap version of it, I can count the number of times I've needed to do manual interventions for nextcloud with LSIO's nextcloud image. It works like a charm.
Second this. Running on portsinet with the images. Absolutely breeze with 8gb ram and 2tb ssd
I just installed it baremetal, works like a charm.
If you are willing to consider commercial products, I can recommend Synology DiskStations (at least the plus series). Samba shares are quite easy to setup, you can use Synology Drive to sync a folder between workstations and Android phones which I use for Obsidian for note taking. They also have calendar options, but I use a hosted account at posteo for that.
If you want to stick to nextcloud but don't want to host it, you could consider Hetzner Storage Share. It's fully managed and worked great for me so far. But I only use it to share photos with others, so not all features.
This is where I am right now as well. The main thing (or really the only thing in fact) I use nextcloud for now is file storage, because when it works, it works damn well. I only really need something that can upload and download files easily, which I guess there are alternative for that, but I also need to be able to share the files via link and share links where other people can upload files for me, which so far Nextcloud does the best of the bunch I've tried... So I'm kinda stuck on the decision to switch for now...
Files: Filerun or File Browser both allow upload and download. I prefer the former as it allows me to preview file contents more broadly (e.g. pictures and videos). But it is paid.
Calendar: DecSync or Radicale both have no web UI. I prefer the former because it doesn't need a server at all, just a file sync solution. But, if you have an iPhone there are no clients and you'd have to setup a radicale server anyway.
Notes: Like others have said, Obsidian with Obsidian-livesync.
The nice thing about Filerun/DecSync/Obsidian is they store or serve files in close to their original format (e.g. files/xml/plaintext), so you can still open the file up on any computer and read its contents the way you normally would.
Did you switch Nextcloud from SQLite to another database?
Other than that, chances are, whatever makes your Nextcloud install slow will also affect Seafile or whatever else you replace it with.
I spent some time with top and iotop debugging my server performance problems. I found an issue that was completely unrelated to Nextcloud. Since I fixed it my Nextcloud instance has been completely reliable.
I looked into Seafile as well but disliked that it stores my files in some weird block format.
I use pydio for cloud drive. I think you can try this
I love idea of Nextcloud, but its overall concept of doing everything, but nothing well enough was one of the reasons I've decided to build S3Drive. We squeeze most of the "file-management" experience out of the protocol itself. That means that all you need to self-host is the S3 storage server (e.g. MinIO)... but if you don't feel like it just yet you can buy S3 from anyone else (e.g. Backblaze / Wasabi / Synology / Cloudflare etc.) and enable 100% Rclone compatible E2E encryption to protect your privacy.
Perhaps you need something to trigger the webcron so things don’t slow down to a crawl. I use uptime Kuma to trigger the webcron every five minutes and have never had any issues.
Give Radicale a try for CalDAV and CardDAV.
+1 for radicale. Simple setup, reliable, easy to administer and backup.
Synology Drive is rock solid. Not open source though if that's important to you and technically requires Synology hardware.
This is concerning to me because I’ve been considering ditching Synology and spinning up nextcloud. I like Synology drive but I’m tired of the underpowered hardware and dumb roadblocks and vendor lock-in nonsense. I’m very curious what you end up doing!
Not OP, but I run it on docker with postgres and redis, behind a reverse proxy. All apps on NC have pretty good performance and haven't had any weird issues. It's on an old xeon with 32gb and on spinning rust.
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