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submitted 11 months ago by mcuglys@burggit.moe to c/askburggit@burggit.moe

Well, maybe not even everybody here would agree if I said "Burggit needs more users" but I feel like it's turned into kind of a ghost town. You can see right in the sidebar we're sitting at 100 users a week. I certainly wish there were more people here. Especially if you hide NSFW, there's only a few posts a day and almost all of them have 0-2 comments. That sucks because I think this is cool as more than just "the loli lemmy". (Even though that's good too).

Of course, Lemmy quickly fractured into mass defederation and basically every instance is pretty atomized now, even the "big" instances. I don't think we get a lot of people checking out from other instances. I would bet with the way modern Google works, nobody is coming here from a google search either lol.

So, is there anything that's fun to link to Burggit on other sites that you guys have been sharing? I sometimes link people here from Reddit if they're looking for real incest stuff, since I always was bothered about how Reddit has an unwritten rule that it's banned but never says so explicitly, and there's posts at least once a week from people looking for it who often get told that if it's not on Reddit it must not exist. More importantly, I think the same is true for some SFW topics.

Of course, the front page is full of loli and people are kinda hostile to that these days. I just wish we could get 1% of the people who used to subscribe to all the loli themed subreddits (including SFW/memes) that were banned in the unofficial big loli purge, that would be enough to make it lively here lol.

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[-] Burger@burggit.moe 9 points 11 months ago

Because the Reddit protests faltered because of spineless powermods who wanted to hold onto their little bit of power, I think this is all the users we're going to get. I've been messing around on our sister kbin instance because it gets us a better view of the broader fediverse that's outside of the narrow scope of what are admittedly mostly 1:1 Reddit clones Lemmy seems to cover. Outragebait included.

I feel like we've turned into mainly a porn dumping ground and less of a discussion oriented community which decreases people's willingness to engage with others on here. It's a mostly 20:1 lurker to contributors ratio. I definitely lurk here most of the time too, so I'm just as guilty as the lurkers who are too shy to say anything on here.

It's all word of mouth at this point. Anybody who had interest in migrating away from Reddit has already done so. It takes a lot to get someone who's firmly entrenched on another platform to sign up for a different site anymore. If you so much as mention a requirement to sign up to partake, they almost immediately will shoot you down. We have easy SSO solutions like Google to thank for this amount of laziness and apathy. If you can't sign in to a site with just a Google account to start chatting, you might as well not exist.

I really wish I knew of an easy solution to draw more users here, but I don't think there is, sadly, because of the aforementioned above.

[-] Ragemidi@kbin.burggit.moe 4 points 11 months ago

I feel like a better way is to use kbin more. Like you said, at least we're able to reach out to other instances with similar tastes. With Lemmy, you're only locked in to the threadiverse or whatever it's called.

[-] tummies@burggit.moe 1 points 11 months ago

I only used kbin for a day or two when Reddit announced their API changes, so I'm not very familiar with it.

Can you explain why it's easier to reach out on kbin than on Lemmy?

[-] SomeRandomAccount@burggit.moe 2 points 11 months ago

Kbin can federate with more software than lemmy, so there are more places to reach out to. Lemmy can pretty much only federate with other lemmy instances (or at the very least, it's not very good at federating with non-lemmy instances). Based on what I've heard, kbin should also provide a better experince when federating with mastodon, pleroma, etc. since its UI's more suited to it, but I haven't used it for more than a few minutes.

[-] CookieJarObserver@burggit.moe 8 points 11 months ago

Nah, those that want to find us do, those that don't can stay the hell away from us. Don't want normies here, they only cause problems. There are more and more different people, even if they aren't active daily, there is a slow increase of people here. And we aren't defederated by everyone. There are a handful of instance that haven't defeated.

If you see some people you think would like it here, just ask them to join, everyone has multiple accounts all over lemmy. At least thats what it should be like.

[-] whatastorymark@burggit.moe 7 points 10 months ago

I like the smaller userbase, it feels like a seedy yet still cool corner of the internet. For me, finding Loli/Shota content so easily was a major part of sticking here, as well as following the Touhou NSFW board since they were one of the few that abandoned Reddit after the protest.

Frankly, I should post more on here. However, this is just me speaking, but I often don't feel like getting the format right for embedding multiple images in a post, to the point where I just don't post. I'm spoiled by just uploading multiple pics on Reddit and that's it.

Browser and e-mail notifications would help. I don't know if Burggit has those features. Regardless, I really like and appreciate this internet space.

[-] RA2lover@burggit.moe 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would bet with the way modern Google works, nobody is coming here from a google search either lol.

burggit.moe/robots.txt pre-empted that out.

/u/The_Entire_Circus has been linking to burggit as a way to mirror reddit posts more likely to get moderated/AEO'd, but i haven't seen this convert into more sign-ups.

Maybe part of it could be the "ghost town" appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn't displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.

[-] rinkan@burggit.moe 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe part of it could be the “ghost town” appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn’t displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.

This is a real problem. Until lemmy implements an administrative setting to allow NSFW to be shown to those that aren't logged in, NSFW instances are going to be at a severe disadvantage.

[-] Burger@burggit.moe 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I compiled the nsfw patched version thanks to the lemmynsfw guys. Logged out users should see what's in store. (inb4 they just fap and close the window lol.)

I still need to figure out how to label the version we're on so that they're displayed at the bottom. But I'll figure that out at another time.

https://github.com/lemmynsfw/lemmy-ui

https://github.com/lemmynsfw/lemmy

[-] rinkan@burggit.moe 4 points 10 months ago
[-] The_Entire_Circus@burggit.moe 1 points 10 months ago

It's a bit late, but I don't think showing NSFW posts publicly is a good idea. I've started a discussion thread on this.

[-] SomeRandomAccount@burggit.moe 5 points 11 months ago

I think the best way to get more users is to get more of the existing users to post (more) stuff. People aren't going to pay much attention to a smaller instance like this if it doesn't seem active (especially with all the defederation), and even just getting more of the current userbase to be more active would help with the "ghost town" feeling. Maybe we could have an Introductions community or weekly pinned !discussions thread or something. More community variety would probably also help, even if it's just porn (at least it'd give people more of a reason to be here). I wonder, how many people are fine with loli (or any specific genre of porn) but aren't really into it?

[-] rinkan@burggit.moe 5 points 10 months ago

I wonder, how many people are fine with loli (or any specific genre of porn) but aren’t really into it?

I kind of fit that. I like "teen" loli stuff, but most loli art is too young for me. Sometimes I can overlook it if it's a particularly hot scenario though.

[-] mcuglys@burggit.moe 6 points 10 months ago

I'm sure a lot of people are like that. It used to be very common on every hentai site (on many it still is) and on sites like Reddit, and art sites. Some people complained, most didn't seem to care. There seems to be have some pressure put on a lot of websites (by advertisers? payment processors?) around the same time. Maybe also when Australia declared that drawn content was CP. Reddit cracked down on the loli subreddits (including SFW), booru sites like Gelbooru and E621 made it so you have to log in to see loli content, even 4chan doesn't allow loli on most boards now. This only happened in the west though, sites like Pixiv still have a ton.

So to a new internet user, it seems like this stuff is much more rare/forbidden, but I'm sure everyone didn't actually change how they feel in the past 10 years. Most people are like "eh, as long as it's drawn, whatever" and although a minority, that content remains EXTREMELY popular on the sites that have it. A lot of people won't admit they're into it though. In a similar vein, now it's considered bad to admit you're tolerant of it on websites you use at all.

[-] rinkan@burggit.moe 4 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure the change was due to the credit card companies cracking down on it, so the payment processors had to comply. I vaguely remember there being some sort of US government program to "encourage" them to do so, but I could be wrong on that.

[-] rinkan@burggit.moe 5 points 10 months ago

I agree that it would be nice to have more people here. I occasionally use an alt account on another instance to crosspost my more normie-friendly stuff over to lemmynsfw, so that it has a link back to burggit on it. That's probably best kept low-key though, so I don't recommend a ton of people do it.

I'd love to see more people from the incest subs migrate over here, but I'm not sure how to advertise. I was pretty much just a lurker on those anyway, since I don't have any stories to contribute. Maybe I should take up writing image captions. They're kind of lame, but whatever. Though there isn't really a good way to indicate that a reddit post originated on burggit without seeming really blatant about it.

[-] choshoband@burggit.moe 2 points 11 months ago

idk. this place has been boring ever since i joined, really hope it changes soon

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