I went to get a couple of pairs of jeans from a Plato's closet recently. I tried 6 pairs of different brand jeans, all 34/32. 4 pairs didn't clear my thighs, 1 couldn't button, the last fit. The cut of the jeans makes those numbers mean very different things..

I didn't think that saying, "I (or anyone) am upset that Trump is still alive" is extreme rhetoric. I think saying, "someone should kill Trump" is. I haven't been much of the latter. I also don't believe that gallows humor about the former is extreme rhetoric either. I think that given the nature of the event, it just hits harder.

Kill them with kindness. Be direct and to the point, but make them hate you more because you're too nice. That way, if they want to talk shit about you, all they can say is that you're too nice.

As someone else mentioned, if you screwed up, make amends, then the kindness thing.

Agree. Someone would obviously take the nomination, but I don't think any of them have the support to win an election regardless. I personally just don't think Ronald would get the nom.

That's fair, but I don't know that the mob mentality out there is as pro political assassination as you are letting on. I'd imagine the majority of people that are upset that the shooter missed have a similar outlook to me. For a moment, millions of people saw that headline and thought their prayers were answered, most just won't say it out loud.

The potential disaster if Trump is elected could negatively affect not only millions in the US, but potentially countries all over the world. It's cliche, but this could be a go back in time and kill Hitler situation. I'm not saying it is, but there is the potential. The legal systems, Congress, POTUS, et all have been failing citizens for years to hold corruption accountable. People are getting pissed off, and some are being pushed to the edge. It's less about being politically motivated, more about future preservation to many of these people.

I'd say this is like the trolly problem, but this is easier. If rapist, felon, traitor Trump is laying on a set of tracks, and 1 million people on the other set. Now, the trolly might split the tracks and "only" take out some migrants build a new section, but the person behind the lever could make a decision that affects the outcome.

I don't think Desantis has the support to pull it off. He had such a bad showing, that I don't think there's enough time to repair the image enough to those that matter before November. Regardless of who the candidate would be, I don't think any of them have that thing that makes MAGAts love Trump so much, and none of them have the same ties that Trump made during his Presidency that I think are most dangerous to our future.

Outside of that, there are still plenty of other benefits and solved problems outside of just the election that would be solved.

I'm not doing any of those things. I'm not asking for more violence or even condoning this last bout. I do think the world would have benefited from Trump's death, but I would prefer in not come from the hand of a USA citizen. If his death comes from a politically motivated shooting, I'm not going to be upset, but I won't go glorifying the shooter.

If Trump were in the morgue right this minute, it would truly solve many problems. I don't want someone to kill him to get there, rather an embolism, heart attack, or rabies would be ideal. If some unhinged individual pulls a trigger, I'm not condoning it, but I'm also not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Edit: There's also got to be perspective. If you're an immigrant, he has threatened your entire family and lively hood if reelected. While not explicitly a violent act to defend with violence, it's not far off.

I'm certainly not upset that someone tried to take out the guy that literally said he wanted to become a dictator if elected. I don't think that political assassination is the right move in most situations, this included. On the contrary, I think someone should put a bullet in Putin's head. So I ask where do we draw the line? Currently the system is corrupt and is shielding Trump from consequences. That leaves the people with few options. What is 2A for if not to defend the country from a tyranical dictator? To me, this is a "leopards ate your face" situation. Trump has been fucking around, and the people are bypassing the broken legal system so he can find out. I'm sad he lived.

Edit: To stir the pot a little more, I'm all for guns being illegal. If there were better gun policies in the USA, this wouldn't have been possible. So this is Republican policy in action.

It would be within his legal right to do so that is to SCOTUS. That said, if the POTUS wanted to whack a guy, they probably wouldn't have gone with the 20 year old at a political rally.

Maybe he was an early adopter of the Neuralink chip.

Cyber security is a very complicated field. There are an infinite number of ways that someone could have breached security. It could have been and statistically was a social engineering attack.

There are software vulnerabilities all of the time that can be exploited for access. Recently SSH was discovered to be vulnerable across all Linux machines running at least a certain version of SSH. It didn't require the victim to do anything but be online.

Microsoft had a zero day that required no interaction that could give kernel level access to a users computer with them knowing.

Neither of those are likely the culprit, but ATT is a large company that has valuable data that hackers wouldn't mind putting extra effort into getting. At my current company that works with healthcare information, the number of attempts on us this year, that we are aware of, has more than tripled from all of last year.

Point being, some was probably negligent in that they clicked a bad link in an email, gave away something sensitive of a phishing call, or some other social engineering attack, because humans are often the weakest point in cyber security.