BlueMonday1984

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"Another thing I expect is audiences becoming a lot less receptive towards AI in general - any notion that AI behaves like a human, let alone thinks like one, has been thoroughly undermined by the hallucination-ridden LLMs powering this bubble, and thanks to said bubble’s wide-spread harms […] any notion of AI being value-neutral as a tech/concept has been equally undermined. [As such], I expect any positive depiction of AI is gonna face some backlash, at least for a good while."

Me, two months ago

Well, it appears I've fucking called it - I've recently stumbled across some particularly bizarre discourse on Tumblr recently, reportedly over a highly unsubtle allegory for transmisogynistic violence:

You want my opinion on this small-scale debacle, I've got two thoughts about this:

First, any questions about the line between man and machine have likely been put to bed for a good while. Between AI art's uniquely AI-like sloppiness, and chatbots' uniquely AI-like hallucinations, the LLM bubble has done plenty to delineate the line between man and machine, chiefly to AI's detriment. In particular, creativity has come to be increasingly viewed as exclusively a human trait, with machines capable only of copying what came before.

Second, using robots or AI to allegorise a marginalised group is off the table until at least the next AI spring. As I've already noted, the LLM bubble's undermined any notion that AI systems can act or think like us, and double-tapped any notion of AI being a value-neutral concept. Add in the heavy backlash that's built up against AI, and you've got a cultural zeitgeist that will readily other or villainise whatever robotic characters you put on screen - a zeitgeist that will ensure your AI-based allegory will fail to land without some serious effort on your part.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago (9 children)

My only hope for this is that the GPUs in these CDO spiritual successors become dirt cheap afterwards.

They hopefully will, since the end of the AI bubble will kill AI for good and crash GPU demand.

 

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Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bonus: He also appears to think LLM conversations should be exempt from evidence retention requirements due to ‘AI privilege’ (tweet).

Hot take of the day: Clankers have no rights, and that is a good thing

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sidenote: The rats should count themselves extremely fucking lucky they've avoided getting skewered by South Park, because Parker and Stone would likely have a fucking field day with their beliefs

Apparently linkedin’s cofounder wrote a techno-optimist book on AI called Superagency: What Could Possibly Go Right with Our AI Future.

This sounds like its going to be horrible

Zack of SMBC has thoughts on it:

Ah, good, I'll just take his word for it, the thought of reading it gives me psychic da-

the authors at one point note that in 1984, Big Brother's listening device means there is two way communication, and so the people have a voice. He wonders why Orwell didn't think of this.

The closest thing I have to a coherent response is that Boondocks clip of Uncle Ruckus going "Read, nigga, read!" (from Stinkmeaner Strikes Back, if you're wondering) because how breathtakingly stupid do you have to be to miss the point that fucking hard

“biological civilization is about to create artificial superintelligence” is it though?

I'm gonna give my quick-and-dirty opinion on this, don't expect a lengthy defence.

Short answer, no. Long answer: no, intelligence cannot be created by blindly imitating it with mere silicon

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 3 days ago

Nitpicking, but at what point do we start calling it race pseudoscience?

"Hating Black People" would be a more fitting name.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 3 days ago

“Music is just like meth, cocaine or weed. All pleasure no value. Don’t listen to music.”

(Considering how many rationalists are also methheads, this joke wrote itself)

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 3 days ago

As a matter of fact, someone's noted Ed Zitron had called this back in September:

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ed Zitron's planning a follow-up to "The Subprime AI Crisis":

(Its gonna be a premium column, BTW)

EDIT: Swapped the image for one that's easier-to-read

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 21 points 4 days ago (9 children)

This is pure speculation, but I get the feeling Microsoft's gonna significantly downsize, if not collapse, by the decade's end.

This recent move's gonna kneecap Microsoft's ability to function as a company, and their heavy investment into AI mean they'll likely take the brunt of the impact when the bubble bursts.

 

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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy 4th July in advance...I guess.)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

 

(No clue why I didn't get around to this earlier, I've had this in drafts for too long.)

Eight months ago, as you probably know, I predicted the current AI bubble would destroy artificial intelligence as a concept, focusing on the unrelenting slop and failures of AI, and on the near-universal backlash it receives whenever it rears its ugly, slop-ridden head.

As it turns out, I had completely failed to recognise the the political elements of this entire bubble. In retrospect, I should've recognised it a lot fucking earlier.

Between Baldur Bjarnason outlining the esoteric fascist elements at the heart of the AI bubble, AI slop's enthusiastic adoption by fascists of all stripes, Damien Williams' notes on authoritarians' love for gen-AI, Ashley Lynch calling AI slop inherently fascist, its become clear the outright fascist nature of AI has been staring me in the face the entire time.

With all that in mind, I'd like to expand on my previous piece with three additional predictions.

  1. AI-as-Fascism

Right off the bat, I expect AI as a concept will pick up a public perception of being inherently fascist, or at least a tool of fascism. Beyond all the ink spilled about AI's fascist nature, Donald Trump going all-in on AI has done plenty to link his administration with the tech, whether through making AI slop of deportees, or letting Elon Musk's AI Powered^tm^ Department Of Government Efficiency go to town on the federal gov.

Long-term, I expect this will hamper future attempts to start new AI bubbles/AI springs, as attempts to revive the tech get treated as morally equivalent to creating the Fourth Reich.

  1. The Wider Tech Industry

On a wider front, I expect the tech industry at large will pick up a similar stench of Eau de Fash as well. Whilst the tech industry has long enjoyed a perception of apoliticality (which James Allen-Robertson has talked about (spoilers for Devs BTW), their own heavy involvement with the Trump administration has done plenty to undermine that.

Between their sucking up to Trump and AI's own stench of Eau de Fash, I can see the public starting to view the tech industry at large as a Nazi bar once the bubble bursts. Silicon Valley's given 'em plenty of reason to do so.

  1. A Bone for The Humanities

Ending this off on a vaguely positive note, I suspect the bubble's burst will earn the humanities some begrudging respect once the dust settles - primarily through cannibalising a fair bit of the cultural cachet that STEM has built up over the decades.

On one front, the slop-nami has given us an absolute torrent of slop flooding the Internet, notable both in its uniquely inhuman shittiness, and in AI bros' breathless adoration of it. Given that, I expect programmers/software engineers will come to be viewed as inherently incapable of making anything on par with anyone who has taken up art as a hobby/profession, and incapable of understanding art with any sort of depth to it.

Additionally, I suspect a stereotype of programmers/software engineers being hostile to art/artists may form, thanks to the rather drastic toll this bubble has had on artists, and the ongoing rhetoric of "democratising art" that the bubble's given us. (The age-old "learn to code" adage may also come back to haunt them as well, if this comes to pass.)

On a wider front, the breathless "AI doomsday" criti-hype, more general over-the-top AI hype, and nonstop hallucination-induced mishaps will likely also contribute to making STEM as a discipline look out-of-touch with reality, making the humanities look grounded and reasonable by comparison as the public looks in confusion at AI bros' inability to recognise LLMs' shittiness for what it is.

 

Good news: a portable version of the LEGO Island decomp just came out, meaning ports to other OSes or devices are now possible.

Hell, there's even a browser port now, available at https://isle.pizza/. If you wanna learn more about the decomp, check out the video I linked.

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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by BlueMonday1984@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

New Rolling Stone piece from Alex Morris, focusing heavily on our very good friends and the tech billionaires they're buddies with.

(Also, that's a pretty clever alternate title)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy Pride :3)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

 

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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