Bonehead

would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear or a black person”

Stop comparing yourself to black men. This isn't about race.

And that’s what men in the feminist conversations normally do - listen and care and respect. I am no exception.

Yeah, except....

If women expect men to listen, could they please listen for once?

You don't want to listen. You're just waiting for your turn to talk.

a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

Again, you are purposely putting yourself in that group and getting offended by it. You are not being oppressed just because someone who doesn't even know you exist would rather not be alone with you.

And that’s where we have to interject.

Which is why women are choosing the bear. Unfortunately you don't seem to get that. You don't have to interject, because it's not about you.

Out of curiosity, what are dreams like for you? Is that also just a stream of sounds without images?

You want someone to listen to you? You want "respect"? You have to give it first. That's how life works. You can either go around being respectful to other people, and if it's reciprocated then great but if not then you move on. Or you can go around being disrespectful to everyone until you get respect first, and people will rightfully treat you the same way.

Women are not venting to you. They are just venting. You are choosing to inject yourself into the conversation and demand that they listen to you first. You're demanding that they accept your solutions without question. And then you wonder why no one wants to listen to you. If you're unwilling to see that, that's your problem.

You are not owed reciprocation. You are not owed appreciation. No one is asking you to listen to them. You've taken it upon yourself to respond to a woman making a general statement that's not directed at you. You made that choice.

It's not the responsibility of women to ensure that you do not become radicalized. You have to take ownership of your own life and the choices that you make. That includes the choice to become aggressive, or hostile, or to become a rapist. Women don't make you do those things. You decide to do those things, no matter how you try to justify it. The choice is yours alone.

Especially the ones who dismiss things by saying “this isn’t about you” when it is about everyone who is impacted by it.

They definitely feel they have a right to express their desire, because as a man… I’m obviously trying to fuck everything in sight. (Sarcasm)

I feel uncomfortable around unknown women

Tell me again how you don't portray yourself as a victim.

I’d like to not be in this conversation with you.

The feeling is mutual. Have a nice day.

“Unknown men” includes me if they don’t know me.

You are specifically choosing to put yourself in that group and then get offended by it. That's no one else's problem but your own. Yes, I'm dismissing what you say, because you keep trying to portray yourself as a victim when it has nothing to do with you. You're not a victim just because a woman who doesn't know you would choose not to be alone with you.

Let's just make this clear.

IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU!

Seriously, you don't have to take it personally. Women aren't saying they'd rather be alone with a bear than you, specifically. Just as all women aren't the same as the women that have harrassed you, you are not the same as the men that have harrassed them. You, specifically, are not the man they'd choose a bear over. You are not the subject of their feelings. Stop taking it personally, and you won't feel bad.

I’m sure those unknown women would think I’m silly for just wanting to be in a room with people who aren’t going to sexually harass me.

Why would anyone do that? No one wants to be sexually harassed. That's the point women are trying to make. They don't want to be sexually harassed either, that's why they are choosing the bear.

Then why is this post filled with men upset that unknown women don't want to be alone with them?

That's fine. No one is forcing you to be around unknown women. And those women aren't going to be offended that you don't want to be around them. Those woman aren't going to call you completely irrational for choosing not to be around them. Those women aren't going to demand that you empathize with them. You are free to feel however you want.

Way to purposely misinterpret what I said.

How are women "wrong" about feeling uncomfortable around unknown men? How are women asking you to fix that problem? None of what you just said is actually happening. Stop creating a fantasy where you're perfect and it's everyone else who has a problem.

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