Ericthescruffy

Flight risk is a definite thing but I know enough to know its also about the severity of the charges and whether the suspect presents a potential danger if released. I find it really hard to believe that him having a "ghost gun" on his person which he plausibly carried across state lines wouldn't be an important argument that they would raise. My best speculation is just that was going to be their final argument, but they didn't get to make it because the judge pounded the gavel and said (cue law and order theme) "I've heard enough. Bail is denied."

Bizarre. So basically either:

A) The state did not present those items during its request to deny bail.

or

B) They did, but nobody is reporting on what comment he did or did not make regarding them?

...that strikes me as a bit odd. Edit: Ok not a lawyer so I don't know how this works but specualtion: maybe they didn't need to? Like during this proceeding is it possible they just got bail denied purely on the money and the bag and they didn't need to present the gun or manifesto in its request because the judge was already on board before they could get to it?

Kind of wild to me we have a statement of him claiming the money was planted but nothing about the gun or the handwritten manifesto that was basically a confession. Like....was he asked about that????

I fully accept the reality that truth is often stranger than fiction and a lot of these incongruities might just be the chaos and incoherence of the real world where not everything is so cleanly defined or rationally thought out.

But seriously....I want to know how we got to here and what the mindset was. Why didn't he dispose of the gun? Why the "manifesto" that based on details that are coming out basically reads like a handwritten confession? According to CNN he was found with 8k in cash on him and Mangione made the claim, in court, that it was planted. Now of course he could totally be lying but still...what the fuck? The best explanation I have, right now, is that he was wavering between wanting to ride off into the sunset or step up and fully martyr himself...but all of it is so inconsistent. I don't know what to make of it.

I want to know exactly what this "manifesto" actually is. When I hear the word "manifesto" I imagine a printed document at least 5 pages or more long, single spaced, that essentially doubles as an admission of guilt while explaining the philosophy of his actions. Having a manifesto implies that he fully expected to be caught, but he had a whole grand escape plan figured out so that clearly isn't the case.

For all we know at this point: it's a notepad file on his laptop that simply reads "law of the jungle" or some generic shit.

I guess stranger things have happened but for real...how was disposing of the gun not like step A after evading capture? Why wouldn't you disassemble it and start disposing of pieces at the earliest opportunity?

I was in the camp that was skeptical from the very beginning that the person in the Starbucks picture whose face we see (who may very well be Luigi Mangione) and the actual shooter in the video are not the same person. The backpack is different and even the coat itself doesn't seem to match (though I admit that couuld be video quality/lighting).

Now suddenly they snatch this dude who has this ghost gun on him and a "manifesto"? After all that he didn't dispose of it? I am not convinced at this point he is a fall guy and I'm extremely interested to learn more information to figure out how all the dots connect but yeah....if he suddenly was found dead in police custody having hanged himself....that'd look a bit suspicious to me. I fully accept that truth is stranger than fiction but man this whole thing is hella bizarre.

Straight up: if this actually is the guy and I was the ruling class I would do everything I could to ensure that exact thing did not happen. If he dies in police custody I am Epstein brained enough at this point to buy the argument that Luigi Mangione is a fall guy because they need somebody to make an example of to keep people from getting funny ideas.

I still fall in the cautiously skeptical camp about this being our guy but this is definitely one way to square up all the contradictions for sure.

Put me in the don't jump to conclusions camp. Going through details none of this makes really clicks.

After the shell casings and the monopoly money it wouldn't shock me if the ID in question does exist it probably has a comically obvious alias.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ftm1hiXgYsA