[-] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 4 months ago

Researchers Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright, discovered that there are 5 social-process levels ( they misidentify as "stages", but caterpillar-moth is stages, & reversible modes are not irreversible, as stages are ),, & that conspiricism is produced in level2.

They published a popular book, in order to get the core of their research into the understanding of people in organizations, where it could do the most good.

  • Level5 - LIVING IS SELF-INHERENTLY AWESOME!!

  • Level4 - WE are awesome, THEY are what we are competing against.

  • Level3 - Narcissism-culture. Doctors are the exemplars of it. It took me until my mid-50's to realize that raised-by-medical-professionals syndrome IS raised-by-narcissists syndrome, even though I'd read a book identifying the entire pattern of damage in the children of such, back in the 1980's ( sometimes I'm not quick ). Dad was a medical-researcher & a doctor. That insight is spot on. You want 2 independent proofs? 1. dress professionally well, a quality suit, & walk into any 4 hospitals ( averaging the results ), & count the percentage of lower-level people, including cleaning-staff, who are upright & meeting your gaze as equally-valid humans. None is likely to be the percentage: their validity has been disallowed/negated by medical-culture. 2. record video in clinics/hospitals, in the hallways, of people interacting, leaving-out any audio: video-only, & record it so it plays-back in slow-motion. When you watch it in slow-motion, because your unconscious won't be automatically-hiding the class-establishing bodylanguage, due to the wrong-speed, you should be able to see the narcissism body-language screaming from doctors. The 1st time I became conscious of it, it was stunning, and my having never seen it, in decades, .. shaming.

  • Level2 - Subject-to-narcissism's-dominion culture. Conspiricism breeds in this level.

  • Level1 - gangs/inmates/nihilism culture. Mass shootings. Manufactured into inmates, manufactured into gang-members, etc. This has the motivation & the leverage to butcher the whole of the rest. Notice that there were over 600 mass-shootings in the US in 2023, and that homelessness is skyrocketing, simultaneously.. That isn't "mere coincidence". Given the political-dominion "solutions" being enacted there, the percentage of the population in Level1 is going to be significantly increasing, with all the consequences of that.

Those who are helplessly subjugated beneath narcissism's dominion, are likely to become conspiricist, exactly as Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright identified.

Actually, it's natural.

IF prohibited from being validly-human, THEN become some other kind of validity, ( "displacement" is it called, in psychology? ), and being "the conspiricist who gets information 1st" is a kind of validity that can exist in the level beneath narcissism's dominion.

Since validity's a basic & fundamental unconscious-mind need, .. this is going to happen.

Consistently.

[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

Child-onset schizophrenics lose 10% of their brains ( this has been known since the 1920's, so doctors rejecting that it is brain-injury, & remaining adamant that it is "illness of mind" of the child, has been gaslighting the subjects/patients for an entire century, and I'd found a PubMed paper which admitted that it had been known since the 1920's, so it isn't just Google Scholar that said such is the case ).

A researcher named Thompson, iirc, did mapping of the brain-loss process, showing where the cortex loses 20%, where it loses 15%, etc, down to 5%, vs where no tissue-loss appeared.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.201243998

He said it took 5y for the wave of brain-loss to go through, & it looked like a slow-motion "forest fire".

It may simply be that people born-blind have more spare-brain to repurpose, so they don't get the mental-illness symptom from the brain-loss wave.

Whereas kids with all their brain being at-its-limit, and then being brain-decimated, they are psychically-butchered.

Notice that recently somebody published that living with cats doubles the child-onset schizophrenia-rate, so toxoplasmosis is implicated in the brain-injury/brain-loss, too.

Interesting angle..

Thank you for posting this, eh?

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"access through your institutions"..

So, I'm blocked from reading it.

EDIT: Found an alternative, I think:

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/682762


No matter.

  1. Wasp-researchers in the Americas ( don't remember if central or south, sorry ) discovered that altruism is generalized mothering.

IF there isn't much need for mothering in this nest, THEN go provide mothering in other nests, even-though wasps are .. aggressively competitive critters according to them.

This isn't the version I'd read before, but it's the same research:

https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2021/february/tropical-wasps.html

That is 1 evidence-based-science identifying altruism's root.


  1. AwakeSoulism/Buddhism has been insisting that altruism is generalized mothering for 25 consecutive centuries, and the phrase "all our kind mothers" meaning all other Souls/Continuums who're lavishing lessons on us, is the current rendition of that ( though Buddhism's people often forget to differentiate between the local person/mind vs the eternal Continuum that currently is trapped in an individual-life/incarnation )

  1. In the Abrahamic religions, they have a story in Genesis, where women "ate of the fruit of the Knowledge of Good & Evil", which means Morality, and having eaten Morality, they shared it with men.

Mothering the root of it, again.


Of course, religious-men twisted the text to mean that women were "guilty" of "sin" and used that to justify mysogyny for many many millenia, but what should one expect of male-supremacism, when its too-fragile ego feels threatened?

History, Western, Eastern, doesn't suggest that we should expect honest integrity of it, obviously.

( the literally millions of women who were forced to die in India due to that male-supremacism, iirc 1 census pegged it at 30,000,000-ish missing women, and that number wouldn't have gone down recently..

the selective-abortion-of-female-foetuses/babies, in order to protect male-supremacism, including the Chinese woman who died while aborting her 4th or 6th or something daughter, because her husband wanted a son to be their only or 1stborn child..

it isn't just China that selectively exterminates girl-lives, the West shows the same thing, & as a Jewess pointed-out, nobody in Jewish culture celebrates the birth of a girl: only boys.

The Catholic inquisition's holocausting of women..

Hatred of female-lives & female-validity seems to be a deep current throughout humankind's diverse cultures, for millenia. )


3 different views into ancient psychology, and all-3 identify mothering as being the root of altruism..

That seems a trend..

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

ALL power-minorities, women, Indigenous, battered people, homeless people, autistics, the same is true.

Power-majority is self-centered, aka narcissistic.

That is the default.

"majority RULE" means minority over-ruled/bullied, inherently.


Look at how a story in the Abrahamic religions scripture, on how women ate "the fruit of the knowledge of Good & Evil" which means they ate Morality .. got turned, by the power-majority into hating-on women for their "sin".

Women ( mothering ) ate of morality & shared it with men.

Period.

Researchers studying wasps in the Americas discovered that altruism is generalized-mothering, Buddhism perceived the same underlying-principle 25 consecutive centuries ago, the correct reading of that story in Genesis stated so, but the male-supremacism deformed the meaning until bullying women became religious-law for .. millenia..


Many years ago, in the 1990's, there were the Internet FAQs.

The Feminism FAQ of that time identified that there was a category-difference between early White feminists & early Black feminists:

White feminists wanted to be included in the White privilege that males had. They wanted their half of White entitlement.

Black feminists, being bullied both for being women & for being Black, wanted something completely different: they wanted the abuse to be forced to unexist.

That is evidence ( my life corroborates it ) that our unconscious, when bullied in 1 dimension, wants to be included in the power-majority group, but when bullied in 2+ dimensions ( each individual may have a different threshold ), then the underlying problem with bullying-itself is understood by one's unconscious, and it becomes removing bullying's rule that one's unconscious understands to be the problem.


It isn't leaving women, Indiginous people, homeless people, etc, fucked-over, while fixing it for 1 subgroup, that is going to make humankind viable, it is dismantling abuse-archy for all that can.

IF we earn it.

in time.

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago

it'd probably be the dryness, as plant-metabolism usually requires water, you know?

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

EVERY time one's gut gets borked simply take a good probiotic with a mild meal ( that the good microbes will like ), and in about 2+h your gut is fixed.

Look for a probiotic with multiple Bifido strains & multiple Lactobacillus strains & Subtilis if you can find that too ( there is a PubMed item on how adding Subtilis to agricultural animals reduced their sickness/infection rate, and since we're mammals too, I'm presuming that we work similarly )

Also use a probiotic after any course of antibiotics, to fix-up one's gut.

I'm old, and find I need the things more frequently, now: even too-much salt in a meal can wreck my gut, but if I'm careful, then I don't need the help.

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

Salt-resistant stainless-steel is the 316/316L steels & the 317/317L steels.

( the L versions are low-carbon, which means they can be welded & the low-carbon won't create carbon-rich defects in the welds )

Salt-resistant aluminum is 5052 aluminum ( low-copper. iirc )

normal cheap aluminum kitchenware is Commercially Pure aluminum, not alloy.

I've no idea what percentage of aluminum food-contact things are made with alloys, but it wouldn't be that much, I don't think?

Nobody bothers using those salt-safe alloys for making kitchen stuff, because there's no market-pressure to do-so.

( those stainless steels are costly, & 5052's used mostly for boats/marine/nautical stuff )

Therefore, using salt in the other alloy bowls/pots/pans does release metals ( including nickel or/and chromium ) into one's diet or/and ecology.

I won't add salt to normal "stainless" pots or pans because of that: it can get added after, even-though that's a harsher taste.

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 5 months ago

I'd say combining Pimsleur with Tandem & Anki would be an extremely effective method.

Only Tandem's got Sanskrit, though..

( & I'm not a people-person, being autistic )

So, I'll try again, someday..

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

Language forms one's mind, and, then, one's formed-mind is reflected in the language one uses.


"Collaborative Intelligence" is a book on working-with 3 of the 4 kinds of innate-mind-language:

  • AbstractShapeCognition, or implication-patterns
  • VisualCognition
  • AuditoryCognition
  • KinestheticCognition

are the 4 kinds that I know-of.

The AbstractShapeCognition kind ( my kind ) apparently makes up a significant fraction of physicists.

The book only deals-with the other-3, however.


Why does that have any significance, whatsoever?

Translating EVERYTHING from AbstractShapes into English .. gets exhausting & frustrating.


Temple Grandin has a couple of TED Talks.

She thinks in movies.

then translates what the variant-movies showed her into words, to communicate.


Language is confining.

Languate is enabling between people, and also between oneself & one's thoughts, but it is crippling.


Douglas Hofstadter's "Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" is on how self-consistent-formal-systems are INHERENTLY mind-blind to all that the formation of the formal-system doesn't/won't see.

Leonard Shlain's "The Alphabet Versus The Goddess" book identifies that women's-rights simply doesn't get much of anywhere, in language/cultures which speak more-gendered language.

ie Anglo cultures have more women's-rights than Latin cultures, with their gendered-language.

That is consistent, & durable.

It gave me dispair for human potential, when I discovered that many language-families program people into genderizing everything, & locking "validity", in establishment's eyes, from "female".

That isn't going to change.

Which means that humankind is less-likely to endure The Great Filter, this century.

The "shackles binding our Potential" are too strong, and too strongly-valued, for humankind to break, enough?

It looks more & more like this is the case.


See the fallacy of wrong-framing, and understand that all human languages are wrong-framing something.

Each language is better at some things, but worse at others, and incapable of some concept-expressing...

That alters our viability, planet-scale.


In "The Design Of Everyday Things", it noted that we've a species-wide mental-defect:

When we do something, and it doesn't work, instead of agilely changing-what-we're-doing, we do what we already-were-doing, MORE FORCEFULLY.

That is why I ditched Emacs for Vim: Vim keeps hitting one on the head with one's not-changing-levels, thereby conditioning one's mind into the habit of changing-levels, counter to that innate species-wide ignorance/incompetence.

Morass-of-capability ( emacs ) was fun, but I NEED to be able to see what need be seen, need to be able to think what need be thunk, etc, and not-changing-levels is an already-known-incompetence?

And I'm autistic? ( making that much worse, with woodenheadedness/monotropism )

Vim forces the change in mental-habit.


Some equivalent is going to be required, species-wide, to force-change our language, in order to make our viability more-likely, XOR our conditioned mental-habit is going to sink a greater percentage of our species' life, this century.


Oh, & Temple Grandin's thinking in movies nuked the entire "without language, thinking cannot happen" school of philosophy, didn't it?

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago

THIS is what happens when you succeed in making an AI ( or Hoomin ) that can create MODERN KOANS.

You Bastard!!

: P

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[-] Paragone@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

That means that there is a positive-feedback-loop, between working-destitution-while-pregnant & inability-to-parent-because-of-working-destitution,

and those 2 combining to multiply the effect, in the produced Attachment Disorder...

Damn, damn, damn, why didn't that happen to be obvious...

[-] Paragone@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago

Some genes only work when got from a female parent, or from a male parent: iirc, that is called "imprinting".

Ttbomk, nobody knows why the effect happens.

Screwing with things for curiosity's sake is fine,

so long as you are paying the price for the screwery, right?

I'll bet that using only-male-chromosomes/genes for making new human lives will have some dire health-consequences for the new life.

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