Septimaeus

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[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

lol and with that you’re a better friend to the begonia’s than I

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Edit-pre: To be clear…I use LLMs rarely (personal reasons) and never for certain things like writing and math (professional reasons) but this comment is not an “AI good/bad” take, just a practical question of tool safety/regs.

AI including LLMs are forevermore just tools in my mind. And we wouldn’t have OSHA/BMAS/HSE/etc if idiots didn’t do idiot things with tools.

But there’s evidently a certain type of idiot that’s spared from their idiocy only by lack of permission.From who? Depends.

Sometimes they need permission from authority: “god told me to!”

Sometimes they need it from the mob: “I thought I was on a tour!”

And sometimes any fucking body will do: “dare me to do it!”

But all these stories of nutters doing shit AI convinced them to do, from the comical to the deeply tragic, ring the same bonkers bell they always have.

But therein lies the danger unique^1^ to these tools: that they mimic a permission-giver better than any we’ve made.They’re tailor-made for activating this specific category of idiot, and their likely unparalleled ease-of-use absolutely scales that danger.

As to whether these idiots wouldn’t have just found permission elsewhere, who knows.

My question is whether some kind of training prereq is warranted for LLM usage, as is common with potentially dangerous tools? Is that too extreme? Is it too late for that? Am I overthinking it?

^1^Edit-post: unique danger, not greatest.Rant/

What is the greatest danger then? IMHO settling for brittle “guard rails” then bulldozing ahead instead of laying groundwork of real machine-ethics.

Hoping conscience is an emergent property of the organic training set is utterly facile, theoretically and empirically. Engineers should know better.

Why is it greatest? Easy. Because some of history’s most important decisions were made by a person whose conscience countermanded their orders. Replacing empathic agents with machines eliminates those safeguards.

So “existential threat” and that’s even before considering climate. /Rant

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh. Innuendo, obviously. But I’d just laugh because I’m not a picky eater [innuendo].

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I’m sorry, the what ranch?

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago

When I was a kid and we’d come back to the states, during sporting events one side of the family would jokingly lean into an Irish caricature about potatoes (a reason they/we came to the US a few generations prior) so in that spirit…

Not ME potatoes! They’ll cheer you up! /hands you a bottle of Luksusowa and jig-dances away singing “mash ‘em boil ‘em put ‘em in a stew…” /

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 5 days ago

Ah the heady experience of a virgin clown-sighting. We all remember. Bring on the rainbows, Little Bobby Tables.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah those old heads are the ones whose stuff I’ve been reading. But general strike vets are not the ones spinning up these 1-day strikes AFAIK. Feel free to share though.

Most I’ve seen are college students sharing motivational posters Grok made them for the 1-day general strike they wanted to have the Friday before spring break. They’re hyper localized and largely meaningless campus-level social events, not adding stable nodes to the resistance network. (But I’m sure there are others more mindful than that.)

My complaint is simply that my peers don’t try harder to understand the fucking assignment, or ask the experienced, before they Leroy Jenkins.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I agree, but they should be active days, to get people plugged in, motivated, and should not be confused with general strike especially since a bunch of people already mistake general strikes as “boycotting work.” But everything I read says that’s a mistake, because those people end up scabs since they were allowed to think it was another paid holiday.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 16 points 5 days ago (6 children)

They shouldn’t call them that. It’s just a walk out. Maybe it’s OK to call it a dress rehearsal or practice run but the point would be to test community support mechanisms and get the word out, not to “put the corpos on notice” or lend virtue to someone’s extra personal day. The truth is it’s not much of a stress test if it’s just 1 day. Also it’s crying wolf. General strikes should damage the economy and an extra snow day just doesn’t. It fails that goal even if it feels nice to say they participated in a “general strike.”

But the more insidious problem is one of logistics, tactics, and reserves.

With protests, there’s often rotating participation so overall support/resource/attention burnout isn’t a brick wall issue. People generally know how many protest days they have to give up front and using them up just means they’ll need to be replaced by another protestor. The point is showing up if you can.

But “1-day general strikes” steal actual person-days from the real general strike (a protracted war of attrition between workers and the economy where the workers hurt themselves to hurt their enemy). Meaning, it actually helps corporations not just by dis-carding useable cards in our deck prematurely_and_ revealing to the opponent our possible hands, it also subtracts drawable cards from our reserves since each of those person-days eventually must be borne by mutual support networks later on.

“1-day General Strikes” are not general strikes!

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wait but… is that actually a thing in Kenya? I only have heard first hand accounts of school systems in a handful of countries in Africa (not Kenya, mostly west side) but consistently I’ve been shocked by either the severity of punishment for basically any form of failure or dishonor or for the prevalence of fear as the administrative motivator-of-choice. (One was just a few months ago I think in c/offmychest where a high schooler was describing their beatings for tardiness, bad grades, and other minor infractions. I think I commented on it.) Maybe they’re for real?

ETA: a bunch of them were from my calc I and calc III professors who were both from (different) African countries but regaled us with stories of the brutality so we knew how good we had it lol (they were good teachers, just a little unhinged, as some math educators are).

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fight club. Ever watcheD thiS movie? It’s great BRO lol

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That’s already begun. Rope-a-dope is effective. We will win.

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