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Since this community is going away and at least one other person sounded interested in a Discord server, I've gone ahead and created one:

https://discord.gg/CsGN9zzC

I've created channels for synthesizers and music production so far, but I'm very open to adding other channels depending on interest. If this doesn't get any traction in the next week or so it will probably be abandoned, so please drop in soon if you're at all interested.

(I'm "Thoughtquake" on Discord.)

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago

Arturia is doing a sale on their software synths. I'm resisting the temptation to add to my collection, but I figure someone here might be interested.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 6 points 1 year ago

I've been hit hard by the GAS. I have too many synths already, and I'm always tempted to buy more. It's an obsession - every single night I'm looking at synths on my iPad in bed. I spend way more time staring at synths I want than actually playing the synths I own.

Yeah, it's not good.

Part of the problem is every time I realize I've gone overboard, thinking about scaling back and selling synths gets me back into over-analytical comparison shopping mode. I'm trying to figure out what's the best possible combination of just a few synths to keep, and then I think "hey, this new thing could replace 3 of my other synths." Except in practice, usually the new thing isn't as great as I thought, and it becomes more difficult to decide what to keep and what to sell. I don't want to make that mistake again.

Maybe I'll sell some things later, but for now the important thing is I have everything I need to make the music I want to make. That's what I should be spending my time and energy on instead of making databases to compare and rank synthesizers. (Yes, I've actually done that.)

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. I started improv singing when I was a small child, did school chorus for a several years, then got sick of blending into the group. I wanted to make my own music with the focus on my voice, so I started experimenting with recording and layering things. That was about 20 years ago. I haven't been at all consistent about it - sometimes I'd go for months without working on music at all. Then there was one year I made a finished song every month and some of it was the best I ever made.

  2. I listen to lots of genres, but most often some form of electronic - downtempo, synthpop, modern EDM, etc. I tend to favor music with atmospheric layers and a hint of mystery, but different moods call for different kinds of music. What I make is hard to classify, but definitely still some form of electronic.

  3. Artists: Pair of Arrows, Rufus du Sol, Metric, Robyn, Zhu... if I try to describe why I love them I'll be typing way too long so I'll just leave this one for now.

  4. I learned a lot of synth basics from Sonic State's reviews - often with detailed demonstrations feature by feature, sometimes with tips on how/why you might use that feature. Some channels for more general music composition and production stuff: James Nathan Jones, Venus Theory, Benn Jordan, Andrew Huang

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 5 points 1 year ago

why people even do music these days

For me, I guess it's about self expression. I can't convey the deepest parts of who I am in words alone - I need music for that. I want to be seen and appreciated for what makes me unique, and not just be another arbitrary person surviving in society. I may never have much of an audience, but it's better to feel understood by a few people than none at all.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago

I want to love Nina (the synth with motorized knobs.) On paper, it's amazing - a 12 voice analog polysynth, plus a wavetable oscillator and digital effects when I want them. The motorized knobs really are a game-changer for modulation and multiple timbres.

But every SINGLE time I sit down to actually spend time with this synth, something goes wrong and I spend my time writing up a bug report instead of making music. The worst part is I don't even know if I'll like the synth when all the bugs are fixed. Even when I make simple, basic analog sounds I don't really care for the tone. FM using the digital oscillator as a mod source seems broken, but I'm not sure if it's a bug or just the best they can do with the hardware design they shipped. I know the hardware signal path is why they're stuck with effects being applied to the final mix instead of per-timbre.

They've done some brilliant things with this synth and I want it to succeed, but at the same time I feel like buying one was probably a mistake. Now I'm just hoping they follow through on the promise of open-sourcing it so I can try tinkering with it myself and see what improvements I can make.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'm glad someone (@ChappIO@waveform.social ?) found a way to automate this. I forgot last week and probably would have forgotten again.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'd start by reading the manual and experimenting with things as you go. When you read about the oscillator parameters, try them out and listen to what happens. If you stumble upon something interesting, save it, and then experiment with other changes. See if it sounds better with chorus, reverb, maybe some additional modulation, etc.

I learned mostly from experimentation and youtube videos. A lot of synth reviews include tips for interesting things you can do on that synth, and Ricky Tinez in particular has a lot of videos about the Peak.

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I've seen several people recommend a soft-bristled brush for dusting off synths, but I'm not sure what's the best type, material, bristle length, or whatever else might matter. Can anyone recommend a specific brush that works well for this? Preferably something I can buy online or find easily in the US.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 3 points 1 year ago

Looping isn't necessarily the only answer. I really liked Dune 2's approach - basically shuffling through a pool of chill music when nothing much is happening, and then interrupting with one of a few "attack" tracks when combat starts. I think it kinda depends on how long levels/missions are - one looped track will eventually get old no matter how careful you are to avoid distracting/annoying parts.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe I should call this a "Weekly" discussion instead of a specific day of the week. It always felt odd to me to post in the "Friday hangout" after Friday, but I know some people did.

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I think one of the things that helped keep r/synthesizers active was the automatic creation of weekly threads like "Friday Hangout", where you could leave casual thoughts that might not feel worthy of a top-level post. So, why not try something similar here?

Consider this a trial run. If people like it, maybe we'll make it a weekly thing. I welcome suggestions for a better title.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about your thoughts on the SH-4D. Guitar Center talked me into buying one because they didn't have it on display and "you can just try it at home and return it if you don't like it", but with the end of the return window coming up I'm struggling to make a decision.

I've gotten some really satisfying sounds out of it, but it's disappointing that some of the oscillator models don't let you modulate most of the parameters, and the list of samples in the PCM model is surprisingly short. Those aren't necessarily dealbreakers, but I guess I'm still trying to figure out if it's really adding enough that isn't covered by my other synths.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 2 points 1 year ago

What barrier to entry? I followed the link from Reddit, filled in a very simple sign up form, and here I am.

[-] Shadowbait@waveform.social 5 points 1 year ago

I already did a long-winded post talking about all my synths so I'll just stick to a list here: Nord Wave 2, Nord Lead 4, Nina, Prophet 12, Peak, Modwave, SH-4D, and Prologue.

I won't go into a retrospective on what I started with because I've sold all the early stuff, and a lot more since. It's been a long road to figuring out what I actually want and need in a synth.

Some other gear I use:

  • LUMI Keys - Not the greatest build quality, but it's so convenient to have an MPE controller I can just put wherever I need and use wirelessly.
  • Zoom Livetrak L-8 - I regret not going for a bigger model, but it does the job well as a mixer / audio interface that lets you record each track separately in a DAW (or directly to an SD card.) Also convenient to have multiple submixes so I can switch between hearing just my DAW or hearing my synths directly when the DAW isn't running.
  • Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro - The best headphones I've used so far.
  • Tourbox - Not specifically music gear, but it's a real game-changer if you use multiple DAWs and struggle to remember which keyboard shortcuts to use for which. Now I have a consistent set of controls no matter what software I'm using.
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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Shadowbait@waveform.social to c/bitwig@waveform.social

I've tried every major DAW and none of them seem to have really thought through hardware synth workflow - it's always takes some tedious trial and error to get everything set up right. However, I've figured out a setup in Bitwig that I'm really happy with so I'd like to share some tips to help others.

First, the Basics:

  • Under Settings -> Audio, you'll need to set up the inputs for each synth on your audio interface. I find it helpful to name each input for what synth is plugged into it, even if I have to change that periodically.
  • Under Settings -> Controllers, any synth you want to record MIDI from should be added as a controller. I usually add them as "Generic" "MIDI Keyboard".

Tracks and Devices:

  • I recommend creating a group track for each synth, so both the return audio from the synth and any recorded audio tracks can be routed through the same effects chain.
  • Within each group, add an instrument track with an "HW Instrument" device. Set the MIDI output and audio return here. In the bottom left of the "return" section is a button to automatically detect latency by sending a short note to the synth and measuring the time before audio comes back.
  • The leftmost pane in Bitwig's UI allows you to change which MIDI controllers control the track (defaults to "All Ins", near the bottom). For keyboard synths, I usually set them to be controlled only by that synth's MIDI input. That way I can arm multiple synths for recording at once and play them independently.
  • To avoid doubled notes without using "local off" on your synth, you can disable monitoring with the little speaker icon button to the left of the input selection in the previous step.
  • If you'd like to automate loading a patch, click "Note FX" on the HW Instrument to expand that section and add a "MIDI Program Change" device. Importantly, DESELECT "Chain Only" or it won't work. Make sure it's in the blue Note FX section and not the gray FX section. The settings for bank changes often take some trial and error, as different synths represent their banks differently.
  • If it's a multitimbral synth, duplicate this HW Instrument track for each timbre and change the MIDI channel setting accordingly.
  • If you want an audio recording, just right click a MIDI clip in the HW Instrument track and select "Bounce". This should create a new audio track under the same group, thus routing it through the same effects. You may want to extend your MIDI clip a bit to catch any release or reverb tails.

Presets:

One of the nice things about Bitwig is you can save all the setup you've done on a HW Instrument device for quick recall, including the attached program change. That means you can save individual patches/presets on your synth as presets in Bitwig's browser.

And, of course, once you have everything set up the way you want, you can save the project as a template to get started quicker next time.

I hope all this is helpful to someone - let me know if you have any questions!

Edit: Added a couple more tips under Tracks and Devices that I forgot to mention.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Shadowbait@waveform.social to c/synthesizers@waveform.social

I have a bit of a hardware synth addiction and spend way too much time talking about them... but we're trying to get a new community started so I felt the urge to jump in and talk about them some more.

The two Nords are my favorites. The Wave 2 is great for beautiful layered soundscapes, while the Lead 4 can quickly go into unusual and striking FM sounds. I love both for how easy it is to dial in performance controls affecting as many parameters as you want in different amounts.

In the middle between them, I'm experimenting with Nina. It has so much potential and so many clever ideas, but first impressions were not good with buggy firmware. I had to put it aside to actually get work done, but I'm about to give it another chance. I'll probably be posting more about it later.

I only keep 3 synths fully connected and ready to use at a time, mostly because I don't want to buy an audio interface with more inputs right now, but it also reduces option paralysis a bit. Everything to the right is basically on standby to be swapped out with the 3 on the left from time to time.

The Prophet 12 probably gets the most use out of everything on the right. It's quirky and a little hard to find interesting sweet spots, but the few good sounds I've made on it (and even a few factory presets) keep me coming back. It's probably the most unique-sounding synth I own.

The Peak is my go-to for anything I can't do on the Nords, if I'm not specifically looking for the unusual character of the Prophet 12. It's deep/flexible enough for most things I'd want to do, without being too menu divey. I really want to upgrade to a Summit some day.

The Modwave is the deepest synth I own, but I kind of hate the interface. Some basic things like unison are buried several pages deep in menu, and it's the only synth here I don't feel like I fully understand yet. I'll have to find time to reread the manual again soon.

The SH-4D is the newest addition, and I've got mixed feelings about it. Multi-purpose buttons make it really easy to accidentally lose work, the mod matrix is missing a lot of destinations I hoped for, and "D-Motion" is probably the most pointless feature I've ever seen on a synth. Who in the world actually wants to pick up a synth and tilt it in the air while cables are hanging off it during a performance? However, it's pretty easy to dial in some really solid bass and pad sounds, and the drum kits are pretty good too.

I saved the Korg Prologue for last because I'm probably going to sell it. It's a pleasure to use and sounds great, but it's pretty limited without 3rd party oscillators and I haven't had a lot of luck with those so far. I also don't like waiting for warm up and tuning when every other synth I own is ready to go in seconds.

Aaand I probably spent way too long rambling about all those, but I hope it was interesting to someone.

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