[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yeah but tescreal is a name we give them, themselves organise in different groups (which fit into the term yes). They have different parts pf the tescreal, but it all ends up in culty behaviour, just a different cult.

Btw see also love bombing with Quantum Scott. There was also the weird LW people who ended up protesting other LW people in the crazy way (didnt it include robes or something, I dont recall much). Or calling Scottstar the rightful caliph when Yud was posting less.

So my point is more they morph into different cults, and wonder how much they use this lack of singular cult as a way to claim they are not a cult. Or whatever rot13ed word they used for cult.

E: not that all this really matters in the grand scheme of things. just a personal hangup.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 11 hours ago

I think it is a little bit more complicated, Im one of the few mentioning this however, so it isnt a common idea I think. I think it isnt directly a cult/religion, but stealing the language of Silicon Valley, it is a cult incubator. Reading these things, having these beliefs about AGI and rationality makes you more susceptible to join or start cult like groups. The less wrong article "every cause wants to be a cult" doesnt help for example, neither does it when they speak highly of the methods os scientology. The various spinoffs and how many of these groups act cultlike and use cultlike shit makes me think this.

So it is worse in a way.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 17 hours ago

Rationalwiki (not affiliated with LW Rationalists, the opposite actually, op is a mod there) has a page on it. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Less_wrong

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

Elon’s status as a little bitch doesn’t overrule Melania’s green card.

This is correct, and there is also a little bit of misogyny in people calling him the first lady.

But what is known is that he is technically illegal, as apparently he we illegally in the country when he got his citizenship papers, which makes them revocable. If only Biden had a bit of guts.

divorce

So much of Musk shit points back to his first divorce how it went and how he never got over it. Including the hateboner he now has for adhd meds (which would prob help him actually stay on a project, and not just play diablo), his hate for therapy and everything else. But self awareness is not a family trait the have, if read the highlights of this interview with his dad.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah that is certainly a problem, but at least they are kicking the neo-nazi mods/groups out. (Which sadly on steam is a community thing, steam itself doesn't seem to care (just the amount of open transphobia on the forums can be quite much, esp when outsiders decide something is 'woke')). Openly doing this sort of stuff (esp on hoi4) seems to be pretty disliked.

While I have not kept up with it, stellaris had a bit of a bigger crypto-fascist entryism problem. On reddit there used to be a lot xenophobic authoritarian anime girl mod nations posts. And the Xeno-Compatibility perk (basically interbreeding between species) got a bad rep in the reputation to (at least in the past, think it is fixed but the rep remains) causing lot of late game lag. Which the crypto fascists and edgy bros jumped onto.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

There recently was a bit of a 'hackers can/are abusing this scare here' and well, I think most people don't want to abuse the system like this and understand the risks/and consequences of this. And there is also a factor of, how would you get caught? So I assume a few people who know how this would work don't actually advertise it. They might have also updated it to actually use some form of encryption. However it used to (from what I heard) not be encrypted (no idea about logging either). There is also the whole thing that messing with traffic lights vs messing with speed traps feels like a very different thing.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago

Ah I recall a CS prof who had his computer world writeable shared on the network who used to smoke cigars in the no smoking allowed building. When confronted with his computer being world writable he first denied it, so much so that students how to give him a live demonstration of them changing files on his workstation. That was amusing.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As a bit of a map painter, Paradox themselves nowadays takes a pretty anti neo-nazi stance. And most public places do so as well (this was a relatively recent change btw, people didn't seem to notice just how bad remove kebab memes etc were). There is sadly the general undertone of 'ironic' far right meme culture which is pervasive in gaming. So that will always be a problem. So neo-nazis not so much, but people making jokes about genocide, and the high risk of your fave content creator suddenly going some weird anti leftwing/culture war rant which makes it clear he (it is always a he) knows nothing yes very much. No idea how much of these people are crypto-fascists or not, as the rest of the space does seem welcoming to trans people and women. (this is my view of the general paradox gaming culture places I have been into, I'm not denying there are neo-nazi groups into paradox games, they just don't seem to be overt or liked vs the general edgelord gamer types).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sidenote: Love how the tech VCs all grew up in the media landscape of tech workers going 'the management of this company is a group of idiots' an then didn't think that would apply to themselves.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 4 days ago

Unifying belgium and the Netherlands makes me think really bad things about the map designers. People who want that are either fools who dont know much about the region or white nationalist fascists. (They often also want SA included)

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Complexity theoretical, security and latency wise this sounds like a great plan. Can wait for people being stuck in cars for days because the freeway offramps are causing livelocks. (Like the example of the waymo cars all honking at each other at the parking lots).

Wonder if they are going to use the routing solutions used in tcp and then discover that cars are heavier and slower than data and suddenly waste a lot of peoples time and money.

E: small little detail which I don't know if other countries also have it, but in the dutch traffic system, emergency services and busses (and perhaps a few hackers who really want to be in trouble with the law (but I always heard this described as a 'this exist, but we don't mess with it' system)) have a system where you can get priority at traffic lights, so they turn green faster. Wonder if other countries have this, and how much they realize this will not work for waymo systems.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 16 points 4 days ago

Also, this plan has a very much a fuck disabled people and old people factor. And what a lonely world they live in.

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The interview itself

Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

"No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

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Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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