[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 0 points 1 year ago

Pathetic fool loses the argument so he starts hurling vile insults :-D

Sorry Clown. You lost.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 1 points 1 year ago

Oooooo. The old "anyone who disagrees with me is a pedo" argument.

Clever.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your first sentence is completely wrong.

Your straw man at the end is stupid bad-faith bullshit. The vast majority of teens are no longer 13.

There are other factors, of course, but getting treated like shit, being constantly told you're a moron, having your sex life criminalized, constantly being told you'll get groomed and preyed on because you're an idiot, getting zero respect, and having no legal rights is a major cause of the mental health crisis (which happened simultaneously with the change of paradigm from teens = young adults to teens = large children)

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 3 points 1 year ago

If a child is raised by wolves do they ever become "mature"?

"maturity" is purely subjective. there is no way to measure it. what is perceived as mature varies a lot from culture to culture.

Nature makes us adults through a process called puberty. Society cannot change that. It is biological reality.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Odd how our bodies reach adult height and brains adult size during puberty :-)

You have cherrypicked your sources. All of neurology points to very fact that brains develop very quickly ages 9-13 and then very slow change from that point on.

but that data doesn't support your bigotry, so you ignore it.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 3 points 1 year ago

You chose to ignore all of the obvious signs of adulthood. Instead you want to cherry-pick a few insignificant changes in the brain and say "these are the only things that matter for maturity"

Sorry. That's just very stupid.

It would be equally valid to claim that pubic hair, or menstruation, or any other adult trait is the only one that matters.

You think that there's a difference between 26 year olds and 16 year olds. Well, yes, there is. But many 26 year olds can pass for 16 and vice versa. Because they are both adults. 16 year olds cannot pass for 6 year olds or vice versa. 6 year olds are children.

After puberty humans are adults. This is not difficult. Desperately searching for neuological data so you can claim 17 year olds are children is dumb. Stop doing it. Nobody benefits from you supporting bigotry. Stop it.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Human brains are largest around age 13.

They never stop changing. But is "maturing" development or decay? or both?

We all know that teens are adults and that their brains work fine. People are just desperate to justify aiming hateful bigotry at them.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 3 points 1 year ago

I want people to respect each other. and unwarranted infantilization is very damaging. Our teens are having a massive mental health crisis right now. They are depressed as hell and killing themselves at rates never before seen. The way we treat them like shit, tell them they're idiots and will be for 10 more years contributes to this.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Do you have any substance? and real argument?

or just vacuous insults is enough for you?

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 2 points 1 year ago

Everybody has tons of opinions on what they are mature enough for or not mature enough for

but as a matter of simple fact, they are adults.

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 3 points 1 year ago

This two-minute video can explain it to your muddled mind:

https://youtu.be/tCaPPyQda04

[-] TealDragon@lemdit.com 0 points 1 year ago

The Tanner Scale measures puberty.

Puberty is the line between childhood and adulthood.

It's really that simple.

If you think there is some other better line, then present your case. Casting dopey aspersions on me just makes you look like a fool.

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