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[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Welcome aboard

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

@MxRemy@piefed.social

So far, only 4 upvotes, and two comments:

One telling me to add Misskey and Sharkey to the post, and the other one of the constant spam Gaza comments / posts.

I'd think that it would probably work better if more people posted posts about the Fediverse, than just me

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Idk, this was a comment left by u/chrismessina on the r/Fediverse version of this post:

I find their explanation for why they didn’t build on open social web protocols baffling:

Why isn't UpScrolled a decentralized platform?

Because it doesn't work for what we're trying to build. UpScrolled isn't decentralized (yet) because today's open protocols (e.g., ActivityPub, AT Protocol) don't reliably deliver what we need for a mainstream, video-forward app: fast global discovery, stable search/ranking, and smooth media. In practice, these stacks still lean on centralized indexing to work well, so we're shipping the experience that works now-not a theory.

We keep things open and simple with lightweight, common-sense protections-spam/bot filtering, straightforward reporting, and consistent deletes when people remove their own content. We're building interoperable by design (clean exports, stable APIs) and will add optional bridges to open protocols as they mature, so you can reach more people without sacrificing speed or simplicity.

(They’ve since scrubbed this from their FAQ).

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43738745

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43738698

I made a post over on Upscrolled recommending people check out the Fediverse:

https://share.upscrolled.com/en/post/6890f5f0-159f-11f1-8080-80006ddcdcfc/

It was kind of a random thought, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

Upscrolled is a newer, strongly pro-Palestine/Leftist platform, and a lot of the users there already care about decentralization, censorship resistance, and not relying on big corporate platforms.

That feels very aligned with what the Fediverse is about.


Since it’s still growing, I’d imagine a lot of users there might be open to trying alternatives like Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, Loops, etc.

Especially if it’s framed less as “leave your platform” and more as “here’s a broader network you can also be part of.”


I was also curious if anyone else here was interested in recommending the Fediverse over there, as well.

Not in a spammy way, obviously — just sharing info and letting people know there are decentralized options that line up with their values.

Curious what others think.


Edit:

https://upscrolled.com/en/about/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UpScrolled

https://lifehacker.com/tech/what-is-upscrolled

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/29/whats-upscrolled-the-app-gaining-popularity-after-tiktoks-us-takeover

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

@MadhuGururajan@programming.dev

I added an edit with information about what Upscrolled is

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43738698

I made a post over on Upscrolled recommending people check out the Fediverse:

https://share.upscrolled.com/en/post/6890f5f0-159f-11f1-8080-80006ddcdcfc/

It was kind of a random thought, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

Upscrolled is a newer, strongly pro-Palestine/Leftist platform, and a lot of the users there already care about decentralization, censorship resistance, and not relying on big corporate platforms.

That feels very aligned with what the Fediverse is about.


Since it’s still growing, I’d imagine a lot of users there might be open to trying alternatives like Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, Loops, etc.

Especially if it’s framed less as “leave your platform” and more as “here’s a broader network you can also be part of.”


I was also curious if anyone else here was interested in recommending the Fediverse over there, as well.

Not in a spammy way, obviously — just sharing info and letting people know there are decentralized options that line up with their values.

Curious what others think.


Edit:

https://upscrolled.com/en/about/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UpScrolled

https://lifehacker.com/tech/what-is-upscrolled

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/29/whats-upscrolled-the-app-gaining-popularity-after-tiktoks-us-takeover

 

I made a post over on Upscrolled recommending people check out the Fediverse:

https://share.upscrolled.com/en/post/6890f5f0-159f-11f1-8080-80006ddcdcfc/

It was kind of a random thought, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

Upscrolled is a newer, strongly pro-Palestine/Leftist platform, and a lot of the users there already care about decentralization, censorship resistance, and not relying on big corporate platforms.

That feels very aligned with what the Fediverse is about.


Since it’s still growing, I’d imagine a lot of users there might be open to trying alternatives like Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, Loops, etc.

Especially if it’s framed less as “leave your platform” and more as “here’s a broader network you can also be part of.”


I was also curious if anyone else here was interested in recommending the Fediverse over there, as well.

Not in a spammy way, obviously — just sharing info and letting people know there are decentralized options that line up with their values.

Curious what others think.


Edit:

https://upscrolled.com/en/about/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UpScrolled

https://lifehacker.com/tech/what-is-upscrolled

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/29/whats-upscrolled-the-app-gaining-popularity-after-tiktoks-us-takeover

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Don't forget about Loops

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

A full-on journalism operation that is:

Fediverse-first

Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


Two Possible Models

  1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

A structured newsroom:

Editors, reporters, correspondents

Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

Clip distribution via Loops

Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


  1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

Think:

Independent PeerTubers collaborating

Loop creators reporting locally

Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

Citizen journalism amplified through federation

This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

World Socialist Web Site

Communist.red

Mother Jones

The Nation

Common Dreams

The Intercept

Jacobin

Cpusa.org

(And many others.)


Podcasts:

The Deprogram:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

Revolutionary Left Radio:

https://revleftradio.com/

Guerrilla History:

https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

etc


YouTubers:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

Second Thought:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

YUGOPNIK:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

r/TankieTheDeprogram

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

r/TheDeprogarm

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

Chris Hedges

https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

Jimmy Dore

https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


Maybe:

A federated aggregator

A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


Big Questions

Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

Curious what everyone thinks.

Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


Link to same post, but on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Apparently there is also We Distribute, we're basically a Fediverse news blog. Connected Places also does a lot of Fediverse / Bluesky reporting.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I think that CB is attempting to become a wrapper for all of them.

Ie you could use CB to pay using crypto, or Stripe, Apple/Google Pay, SAMSUNG Wallet, or etc

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43683636

Hear me out.

Odysee already leans heavily into:

Crypto-native infrastructure

Creator monetization and boosts

Decentralization ethos

Resistance to deplatforming

User ownership principles

Those values line up really closely with what Nostr is trying to do — decentralized identity (pubkeys), relay-based distribution, censorship resistance, Lightning-native payments (zaps), etc.


If Odysee integrated with or transitioned toward Nostr:

Creator identities could be portable across the broader Nostr ecosystem

Video posts could propagate across relays

Boosts/zaps could tie into Lightning more seamlessly

It could position itself as the YouTube “video layer” of Nostr


Right now, if someone wants a decentralized YouTube alternative, the usual answers are:

PeerTube (Fediverse-based)

Odysee (LBRY-based)

But Nostr doesn’t really have a dominant video platform yet. Odysee already has the infrastructure, userbase, and crypto alignment.


So I’m curious:

Would this even be technically feasible?

Would it undermine Odysee, or could it complement it?

Would you prefer Odysee stay on its current path, or evolve toward broader protocol interoperability?

Is protocol alignment (Nostr, Fediverse, etc.) even something Odysee should prioritize?


Genuinely curious what this community thinks.

 

Hear me out.

Odysee already leans heavily into:

Crypto-native infrastructure

Creator monetization and boosts

Decentralization ethos

Resistance to deplatforming

User ownership principles

Those values line up really closely with what Nostr is trying to do — decentralized identity (pubkeys), relay-based distribution, censorship resistance, Lightning-native payments (zaps), etc.


If Odysee integrated with or transitioned toward Nostr:

Creator identities could be portable across the broader Nostr ecosystem

Video posts could propagate across relays

Boosts/zaps could tie into Lightning more seamlessly

It could position itself as the YouTube “video layer” of Nostr


Right now, if someone wants a decentralized YouTube alternative, the usual answers are:

PeerTube (Fediverse-based)

Odysee (LBRY-based)

But Nostr doesn’t really have a dominant video platform yet. Odysee already has the infrastructure, userbase, and crypto alignment.


So I’m curious:

Would this even be technically feasible?

Would it undermine Odysee, or could it complement it?

Would you prefer Odysee stay on its current path, or evolve toward broader protocol interoperability?

Is protocol alignment (Nostr, Fediverse, etc.) even something Odysee should prioritize?


Genuinely curious what this community thinks.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think an aggregated approach is more "Fediverse" like. But once again, who decides what does/ doesn't get published?

What I was thinking was something similar to how Lemmy operates.

You just take the already existing websites / platforms, use some code to connect them to together, and let users create their own apps

Basically just take Lemmy, but replace the instances with News Websites

If a website gets too egregious, then the others could potentially vote to have their access revoked

 

So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

A full-on journalism operation that is:

Fediverse-first

Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


Two Possible Models

  1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

A structured newsroom:

Editors, reporters, correspondents

Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

Clip distribution via Loops

Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


  1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

Think:

Independent PeerTubers collaborating

Loop creators reporting locally

Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

Citizen journalism amplified through federation

This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

World Socialist Web Site

Communist.red

Mother Jones

The Nation

Common Dreams

The Intercept

Jacobin

Cpusa.org

(And many others.)


Podcasts:

The Deprogram:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

Revolutionary Left Radio:

https://revleftradio.com/

Guerrilla History:

https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

etc


YouTubers:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

Second Thought:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

YUGOPNIK:

https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

r/TankieTheDeprogram

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

r/TheDeprogarm

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

Chris Hedges

https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

Jimmy Dore

https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


Maybe:

A federated aggregator

A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


Big Questions

Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

Curious what everyone thinks.

Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


Link to same post, but on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just checked, and

Neptune

has 265.9K followers, and

Skylight.Social

has 71.5K Followers

So, while not in the millions, I'd still say that that's not bad.

 

So I know (and agree with many here) that TikTok has arguably gotten worse since the U.S. acquisition — algorithm shifts, monetization pressure, more corporate vibes, etc.

But that got me thinking…

What if someone (or a group) made a fan-run, unofficial TikTok account dedicated entirely to Loops?


Not an official account — just a community-driven one focused on:

What Loops is

How it works (Fediverse connection, decentralization, etc.)

Why it’s different from TikTok

Benefits for creators

Benefits for viewers

Tutorials / onboarding walkthroughs

Showcasing great Loops creators


I’ve seen random individuals casually mention/promote Loops on TikTok, but I’ve never seen an account that’s fully Loops-focused.

Kind of like how Neptune or Skylight (other TikTok competitors) have TikTok accounts — except theirs are officially run marketing accounts. What I’m imagining is something more grassroots and community-powered.


Questions:

Do you think this would actually help spread awareness of Loops?

Or would promoting a Fediverse platform on TikTok defeat the point?

Would people here be interested in contributing clips / scripts / ideas?

Would this need coordination from Dansup, or should it stay fully independent?

Curious what you all think. Bad idea? Good idea?

 

I'm curious — are there any popular creators who have crossed over to Loops yet?

Or even just really good creators native to Loops that you’d recommend following?


By “popular,” I mean:

Established creators from platforms like TikTok, YouTube, Instagram Reels, etc.

Or creators with a strong following / recognizable brand who’ve started posting on Loops.


But I’m also very interested in:

Smaller Loops-native creators making great content

Fediverse-friendly creators who are experimenting outside the big corporate platforms



Idea: Community-Maintained Creator List?

It might be useful for this community to maintain an updating list of notable creators on Loops — especially if/when bigger names join.

Maybe:

A pinned thread?

A wiki-style post?

Or a periodically refreshed megathread?

Or even perhaps a Wordpress / Ghost / etc website, that's linked in this community.

(That way, users who don't use Lemmy / aren't familiar with / Fediverse newbies aren't required to download / join Lemmy, just for the list.)

That way, when someone asks “Who should I follow on Loops?”, we have a ready resource.


It could include:

Creator's Username

Loops handle

Content category

Whether they’re established elsewhere (optional)

Link(s) to their other platforms (if relevant)


This might:

Help new users find quality content faster

Encourage cross-platform creators to join

Give early Loops creators more visibility


What are your recommendations? Who’s worth following right now?

And do you think a running list maintained by this Lemmy community would be helpful?

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Teknevra@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
 

I'm part of the discord community for Loops (by Dansup), and earlier this morning, a user mentioned that they made a new Youtube alternative, that's built upon ATProto, but that they plan on adding federation to it.


Exact Message:

*Hil made a YouTube alternative built on

the AT Protocol I plan to add the

Fediverse soon but let me know what

you think, it's also local first so your data

is private* https://alu.pics/


Discord Server Message

 

I had a random idea for a potential Fediverse platform: what if someone took the idea and design of Upscrolled, but as a decentralized, federated alternative?

Pro-Palestine protesters, users. etc are flocking to US, given the crackdown towards them on other platforms and sites.

Having a federated alternative to Upscrolled could potentially bring in more users, as well as introduce more people to the Fediverse.

Not to mention that there has already been talk of companies (ie Apple, Google, etc) removing US from their App Stores.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UpScrolled/s/94T1EZznCr


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/29/whats-upscrolled-the-app-gaining-popularity-after-tiktoks-us-takeover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UpScrolled


EDIT: I made a post on the Upscrolled Subreddit, about whether or not Upscrolled should consider potential federation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UpScrolled/s/j7htK3ST09

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