[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm noticing that people who criticize him on that subreddit are being downvoted, while he's being upvoted.

I wouldn't be surprised if, as part of his prodigious self-promotion of this overlong and tendentious screed, he's steered some of his more sympathetic followers to some of these forums.

Actually it's the wikipedia subreddit thread I meant to refer to.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 12 points 8 months ago

Strange man posts strange thing.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 13 points 8 months ago

This linked interview of Brian Merchant by Adam Conover is great. I highly recommend watching the whole thing.

For example, here is Adam, decribing the actual reasons why striking writers were concerned about AI, followed by Brian explaining how Sam Altman et al hype up the existential risk they themselves claim to be creating, just so they can sell themselves as the solution. Lots of really edifying stuff in this interview.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 15 points 9 months ago

Happy Valentine's Day everybody!

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 14 points 11 months ago

I think in their minds, there is this magical threshold below which all the brown and disabled people live, and once you get rid of all the people residing below that threshold all you have left is smart people who want to make the world better.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only an EA could take seriously someone who approvingly cites journals like "Mankind Quarterly" and crackpots like Richard Lynn, Steven Hsu, Jonathan Anomaly, and Emil Kirkegaard.

The author considers himself a "rationalist of the right" and a libertarian who enjoys Richard Hanania and Scott Alexander. He describes ten tenets of right-wing rationalism, 8 of which are simply rephrasings of various ideas promoted by scientific racists. It would be an understatement to say this guy is monomaniacally focused on a single topic.

(Oh, and he publishes his brain farts on Substack. Because of course he does.)

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

She seems to do this kind of thing a lot.

According to a comment, she apparently claimed on Facebook that, due to her post, "around 75% of people changed their minds based on the evidence!"

After someone questioned how she knew it was 75%:

Update: I changed the wording of the post to now state: ๐—”๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐Ÿณ๐Ÿ“% ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฒ ๐˜‚๐—ฝ๐˜ƒ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜, ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜† ๐—ด๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ฑ ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป*

And the * at the bottom says: Did some napkin math guesstimates based on the vote count and karma. Wide error bars on the actual ratio. And of course this is not proof that everybody changed their mind. There's a lot of reasons to upvote the post or down vote it. However, I do think it's a good indicator.

She then goes on to talk about how she made the Facebook post private because she didn't think it should be reposted in places where it's not appropriate to lie and make things up.

Clown. Car.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 12 points 11 months ago

People who use the term "race realism" unironically are telling on themselves.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 13 points 1 year ago

The first comment and Yud's response.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Roko's authoritative-toned "aktshually..." response to Annie's claims have me fuming. I don't know why. I mean I've known for years that this guy is a total boil on the ass of humanity. And yet he still manages to shock with the worst possible take on a topic -- even when the topic is sexual abuse of a child. If, like Roko, I were to play armchair psychiatrist, I'd diagnose him as a sociopath with psychopathic tendencies. But I'm not. So I won't.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago

That reminds me. If the world is about to FOOM into a kill-all-humans doomscape, why is he wasting time worrying about seed oils?

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 15 points 1 year ago

Random blue check spouts disinformation about "seed oils" on the internet. Same random blue check runs a company selling "safe" alternatives to seed oils. Yud spreads this huckster's disinformation further. In the process he reveals his autodidactically-obtained expertise in biology:

Are you eating animals, especially non-cows? Pigs and chickens inherit linoleic acid from their feed. (Cows reprocess it more.)

Yes, Yud, because that's how it works. People directly "inherit" organic molecules totally unmetabolized from the animals they eat.

I don't know why Yud is fat, but armchair sciencing probably isn't going to fix it.

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[All non-sneerclub links below are archive.today links]

Diego Caleiro, who popped up on my radar after he commiserated with Roko's latest in a never-ending stream of denials that he's a sex pest, is worthy of a few sneers.

For example, he thinks Yud is the bestest, most awesomest, coolest person to ever breathe:

Yudkwosky is a genius and one of the best people in history. Not only he tried to save us by writing things unimaginably ahead of their time like LOGI. But he kind of invented Lesswrong. Wrote the sequences to train all of us mere mortals with 140-160IQs to think better. Then, not satisfied, he wrote Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality to get the new generation to come play. And he founded the Singularity Institute, which became Miri. It is no overstatement that if we had pulled this off Eliezer could have been THE most important person in the history of the universe.

As you can see, he's really into superlatives. And Jordan Peterson:

Jordan is an intellectual titan who explores personality development and mythology using an evolutionary and neuroscientific lenses. He sifted through all the mythical and religious narratives, as well as the continental psychoanalysis and developmental psychology so you and I donโ€™t have to.

At Burning Man, he dons a 7-year old alter ego named "Evergreen". Perhaps he has an infantilization fetish like Elon Musk:

Evergreen exists ephemerally during Burning Man. He is 7 days old and still in a very exploratory stage of life.

As he hinted in his tweet to Roko, he has an enlightened view about women and gender:

Men were once useful to protect women and children from strangers, and to bring home the bacon. Now the supermarket brings the bacon, and women can make enough money to raise kids, which again, they like more in the early years. So men have become useless.

And:

That leaves us with, you guessed, a metric ton of men who are no longer in families.

Yep, I guessed about 12 men.

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Excerpt:

Richard Hanania, a visiting scholar at the University of Texas, used the pen name โ€œRichard Hosteโ€ in the early 2010s to write articles where he identified himself as a โ€œrace realist.โ€ He expressed support for eugenics and the forced sterilization of โ€œlow IQโ€ people, who he argued were most often Black. He opposed โ€œmiscegenationโ€ and โ€œrace-mixing.โ€ And once, while arguing that Black people cannot govern themselves, he cited the neo-Nazi author of โ€œThe Turner Diaries,โ€ the infamous novel that celebrates a future race war.

He's also a big eugenics supporter:

โ€œThere doesnโ€™t seem to be a way to deal with low IQ breeding that doesnโ€™t include coercion,โ€ he wrote in a 2010 article for AlternativeRight .com. โ€œPerhaps charities could be formed which paid those in the 70-85 range to be sterilized, but what to do with those below 70 who legally canโ€™t even give consent and have a higher birthrate than the general population? In the same way we lock up criminals and the mentally ill in the interests of society at large, one could argue that we could on the exact same principle sterilize those who are bound to harm future generations through giving birth.โ€

(Reminds me a lot of the things Scott Siskind has written in the past.)

Some people who have been friendly with Hanania:

  • Mark Andreessen, Silion Valley VC and co-founder of Andreessen-Horowitz
  • Hamish McKenzie, CEO of Substack
  • Elon Musk, Chief Enshittification Officer of Tesla and Twitter
  • Tyler Cowen, libertarian econ blogger and George Mason University prof
  • J.D. Vance, US Senator from Ohio
  • Steve Sailer, race (pseudo)science promoter and all-around bigot
  • Amy Wax, racist law professor at UPenn.
  • Christopher Rufo, right-wing agitator and architect of many of Florida governor Ron DeSantis's culture war efforts
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Ugh.

But even if some of Yudkowskyโ€™s allies donโ€™t entirely buy his regular predictions of AI doom, they argue his motives are altruistic and that for all his hyperbole, heโ€™s worth hearing out.

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