[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

This is the correct peripheral to keep between your splits.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I had considered adding integrated wrist rests but I rest my elbows on armrests and it hasn't really been any issue.

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by demibyte@lemmy.world to c/ergomechkeyboards@lemmy.world

Finally completed my Explorer Pi V2 build. My primary goals for V2 was to adjust economics to fit my hand, improve build quality while reducing total part count, and to create a better thumb cluster. A lot of these changes trade modularity to achieve these goals, which is not a big loss as I get closer to endgame design.

Thumb cluster was my biggest complaint with the original; being modular made the whole assembly too weak and key spacing to large; not to mention inflating the part count. So I made a one piece design with additional mounting support. Also went with a six key, two row design. Finally I make the switch plate compatible with either MX or Choc switches (and swappable). Used my Enigma Dual Hot Swap pcbs for the thumb cluster keys. This thumb cluster is probably going to see some future iterations. I've made things fully modular in case I want to swap it out for a new one later.

I've made quite a few changes to the original to arrive at this point including:

  • adjusted stagger of each column
  • adjusted splay and height on the pinky columns
  • used flexible pcbs (from the BigSkree)
  • made the switch plate one piece per side (orig was individual columns)
  • added side walls to the switch plate
  • added additional support to the thumb cluster so it has less wobble
  • one piece, 6 key thumb cluster
  • support for both choc and mx switches on thumb cluster
  • added ARRI locating holes to the 1/4" mounting point
  • reduced total count of required inserts and screws
  • reduced diameter of the 1/4" insert hole to better fit the inserts I was able to source
  • adjusted 1/4" mount location for better center of balance.

While I originally was planning on taking more build photos and putting together a guide for this iteration I had a bit of a lightbulb moment while assembling this for how to improve the entire build dramatically so that going to be a goal for V3 now.

As a slight aside I came up with a pretty good mounting solution for this board. Each half has a stand using these rubber coated magnets, a low profile hawklock and super low small ballhead mounts. With my v2.5 base plate I modified the 1/4" center of balance so that these stands balance well enough on a non magnetic surface to type on. They are also rubber coated so surface damage as well as sliding are minimized. Then for my main setup to make things even more secure I simply place a piece of sheet steel under my desk pad. I'm liking this enough that I'm starting to wonder about the embedding some steel in the desk permanently.
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Keycaps:

  • DES alphas R2-R4
  • 4x DES Thumbs R5x
  • 2x DES R5 1.25u
  • 2x cDES R5x
  • 2x CS 1.25u
  • 2x Gravity 1.25u

Switches:

  • MX Boba U4
  • Choc Sunsets

The Boba U4's are the second switch I've tried on here and still not satisfied. Anyone have some good silent tactile switch suggestions?

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[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

You're welcome, like I said was easy enough to chop off a column.

I'm in more less the same boat as far as printing goes. Either MJF or SLS will be fine. This iteration as MJF previous was SLS. MJF is a little nicer imo. Smoother surface finish and it can be dyed black. SLS is a little cheaper though. I used jlcpcb and didn't ask them to do anything special.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yes I will share on this sub. Since you are interested though you are welcome take a look at my github early. Added a 3x5 version of the case there as well (not tested printing).

Hand-wiring shouldn't be much more difficult than my first build with per key pcbs. It is pretty thin though and assembly will be a bit tricky regardless of how it's wired. For printing I've only tried with MJF and SLS and I didn't really take into consideration any limitations of Resin or FDM printing. I don't think there is anything that would make printing any of the parts with those techniques (though maybe some parts are a little thin for FDM) so keep that in mind.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'll be posting with more details on the board once I've consider it finished but happy to share here as well.

As far as modifications I made:

  • adjusted stagger of each column
  • adjusted splay on the pinky columns
  • used flexible pcbs (from the BigSkree)
  • made the switch plate one piece per side (orig was individual columns)
  • added side walls to the switch plate
  • added additional support to the thumb cluster so it has less wobble
  • one piece, 6 key thumb cluster
  • support for both choc and mx switches on thumb cluster
  • added ARRI locating holes to the 1/4" mounting point

Lot of my modifications make the board less configurable but provide an easier and sturdier build. Making this a 5 column build would not be difficult. The original is 5 columns by default and 6 with an extension plate. Modified version is all one piece but modifying the CAD to chop off a column would be no problem.

Currently the thumb cluster has a mix of DES profile caps on MX switches and CS profile caps on choc switches.

Aside from the 3D printed parts build just uses some heat press inserts and screws.

I'll be happy to share the modified files once I've got everything finalized and organized, hopefully that will be later this week.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

My heavily modified version of the Explorer RxCT. This current iteration is almost complete, some additional custom keys for the thumb cluster on the way right now and not 100% sold on the current key I've got on here. Thumb cluster angle is adjustable and keys can be swapped for either choc or mx.

Also another iteration on the base plate with modified 1/4" mounting point for better balance is in the works.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah personally I was never able to fully get used to home row mods. Even after a fair bit of tuning I found that invariably home row mods would start to get in the way of typing speed around the ~60wpm mark. People are always so quick to recommend home row mods as the ultimate solution to finger movement that I tried to stick with it for a fair while but finally switched to dedicated keys for mods and couldn't be happier (plus I finally smashed the 60wpm barrier).

Personally I have shift on both thumb clusters and alt-cmd-ctrl on the left most column of my left split (3x6 layout), the keys that used to be there were moved to combos to make space (ESC is two left most keys middle row, TAB is two left most keys of top row). I've got some of the mods duplicated elsewhere on other layers as well just depending on the use case. Also not using home row mods means you can (probably) use auto shift as well which can potentially eliminate the need for a fully dedicated shift key.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

There are not nearly as many options for choc keys, particularly if you are mainly interested in ascetics. You can can get dyed mbk caps, off the top of my head I know Clickety Split has them. I'm sure you can find similar for different regions as well.

There is also Asymplex for both a variety of solid color CS profile as well as the occasional batch of artisan keycaps made. Also solid color DES caps with choc stems.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You could try out QMKs swap hands feature. I've not tried using myself but have considered doing so for this use case exactly.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wow that could actually be really sick. I kinda worry that it would end up being a mediocre mouse and suffer as a keyboard as a result but even still...

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The flexible pcbs look great, very interested for the next build. Also potentially interested in the "pad" mcu you are working on there.

[-] demibyte@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

First keywell keyboard. Previously was using a custom flat pcb build:

Not too bad a learning curve transitioning from that. About a day maybe two to get up to previous typing speed but I'm also experimenting with some layout changes now. Thumb cluster was immediately so much more comfortable.

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I decided to try out building myself the Explorer RxCT keyboard (posted on that other place shortly before the drama). Since this build is using rp2040 mc I've taken to calling it the Explorer Pi.

Of course I don't have my own 3D printer so I ended up using jlcpcb for the parts using SLS nylon. I'm quite pleased with how they came out.

Quite happy with the keyboard overall. I had being using choc switches for quite awhile so it took a little adjusting but not too bad and very comfortable to type on at this point.

Only thing I will probably change sooner or later is the thumb cluster. The modularity is great for narrowing down preferences but the construction means the keys are further spaced than I would prefer. I'm working on a two piece thumb cluster with tighter spacing at the cost of being a lot less customizable once I'm certain I've figured out what I want.

Loving the cheese plate for the base, I think there is something to be said for having a constant relative positioning between left and right hands. Only issue with it originally was that it would slide around a lot on the desk pad. I came up with a great solution:

Four 3/8" set screws secured in place with four more 1/4" set screws and this thing isn't sliding anywhere anymore. Also possible to use some longer set screws to add some additional Y axis tilting if desired.

Quick disconnect mounts for convince

Also worked out a mounting solution for on the go by mounting direct to laptop.

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