[-] meepster23@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

Okay let me ask you why you think Ukraine has held on this long then? What do you think is the reason? According to this article and statements being made they are out numbered, out produced in arms, why are they still here?

[-] meepster23@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

I mean the fact that they are still standing is a pretty solid endorsement. By your logic Kyiv should have fallen in the first week like Russia was claiming it would.

Specific example off the top of my head is the cruise missile strikes against the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet using Storm Shadows I believe iirc

[-] meepster23@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago

Mostly old Soviet stock piles and some western weapons. You don't actually believe that the entire Ukrainian army is being supplied by NATO do you?

[-] meepster23@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago

those munitions are not fifteen times as effective

By what metric are you basing this off of? What's your evidence? The f35 is an over priced money pit, but it will dry hump every other jet in existence into the ground before they even know they are there.

https://lexingtoninstitute.org/the-f-35-is-the-safest-and-most-capable-fighter-the-u-s-military-has/#:~:text=In%20recent%20Red%20Flag%20aerial,improved%20their%20scores%20as%20well.

Of course it's gonna be difficult or impossible to say how it would fair head to head against Russian fighters, but again, if Russia has these, why aren't they in use and how is Ukraine giving them such trouble?

Precision is important, but ultimately having cheap unreliable ammunition is better than having no ammunition.

I mean, duh? But that's not the argument, the argument is over is cheap unreliable ammo in bulk better than expensive reliable ammo in smaller quantities.

Small arms advantage guess to bulk as failures aren't catastrophic and the whole accuracy by volume thing is real.

Missiles, artillery etc? I'd say the advantage is probably soundly in the higher tech end because it makes it exponentially more effective.

Ukraine has been holding off Russia for how long now with leftover scraps from Western countries?

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