[-] realChem@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

why would I want to use it?

You wouldn't, but that's fine with Match Group: JP Morgan[^1] are loving this new monetization strategy. If they think they can get more money out of their users they will, the experience and usefulness of their app be damned. Very similar to aggressively monetized mobile games, but extra icky since they're monetizing human relationships.

[^1]: I'm sure other investment firms are pleased as well, but JP Morgan was the firm mentioned in the article

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The Oldest Living Shark (www.livescience.com)
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[-] realChem@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

It seems like you're working under the core assumption that the trained model itself, rather than just the products thereof, cannot be infringing?

Generally if someone else wants to do something with your copyrighted work – for example your newspaper article – they need a license to do so. This isn't only the case for direct distribution, it includes things like the creation of electronic copies (which must have been made during training), adaptations, and derivative works. NYT did not grant OpenAI a license to adapt their articles into a training dataset for their models. To use a copyrighted work without a license, you need to be using it under fair use. That's why it's relevant: is it fair use to make electronic copies of a copyrighted work and adapt them into a training dataset for a LLM?

You also seem to be assuming that a generative AI model training on a dataset is legally the same as a human learning from those same works. If that's the case then the answer to my question in the last paragraph is definitely, "yes," since a human reading the newspaper and learning from it is something that, as you say, "any intelligent rational human being" would agree is fine. However, as far as I know there's not been any kind of ruling to support the idea that those things are legally equivalent at this point.

Now, if you'd like to start citing code or case law go ahead, I'm happy to be wrong. Who knows, this is the internet, maybe you're actually a lawyer specializing in copyright law and you'll point out some fundamental detail of one of these laws that makes my whole comment seem silly (and if so I'd honestly love to read it). I'm not trying to claim that NYT is definitely going to win or anything. My argument is just that this is not especially cut-and-dried, at least from the perspective of a non-expert.

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

Exciting stuff. I've long since vowed never to pre-order anything from Bethesda ever again though, so I'll be waiting to hear what the vibe is once other folks start playing it. Right now it very much seems like it could either be great or disappointing. We'll see in a couple weeks' time I s'pose

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Not what I initially expected this article to be about, but I do love this kind of cross-cutting research that takes ideas from one field and applies them to a seemingly entirely different field. (Also makes me wish I'd been able to take a topology class at some point.)

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Actual Progress (imgs.xkcd.com)

Alternate title: how my PhD project is currently going

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

Flash games will work again? Moving away from NFTs? Well dang, I might just make a new neopets account! Lots of nostalgia there, it'd be cool to mess around with again after all these years.

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Science Q&A (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 year ago by realChem@beehaw.org to c/science@beehaw.org

Hey folks! Here's a pinned post where you can ask science questions!

Here's a quick rundown of what this post is and isn't:

  • This is a place where you can ask science-related questions!
  • This is a place to provide science-based answers to others' questions!
  • This isn't reddit's askscience community. By this I mean we don't have the resources (or, really, desire) to vet users' credentials, and you shouldn't expect that whoever is answering your question is necessarily an expert. That said, this community does have a large share of professional scientists and engineers, and I'm hoping that those folks will be interested in sharing their expertise when they can.
  • This isn't a place to ask for medical advice – since we can't vet qualifications these kinds of questions won't be allowed here in the interest of preventing harm, and I'll remove any comments that ask personal medical questions. If you have a question about medicine that's not asking for advice, that is fine and allowed.
  • This isn't the only place on this community where you're allowed to ask questions! If you have a question related to another post, ask in the comments there. If you have a question not related to another post, I'd like it if you tried asking here first (to help this thread gain some traction), but you're also free to ask in a separate post if you'd prefer (or both).

I'm going to post this inaugural thread with no set expiration date. I'm currently thinking a new thread maybe every 2–4 weeks, but I'd like to see what the volume of comments here ends up being like before deciding for sure.

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submitted 1 year ago by realChem@beehaw.org to c/science@beehaw.org

So it turns out if you set a language on your post, anyone who hasn't explicitly picked any languages in their profile can't see it. So I'm gonna repost this with no language selected and see if we get a little more feedback this time.

There were a couple of Q&A posts here ~~yesterday~~ the other day that got some pretty good engagement, and I was wondering if folks would be interested in a weekly/biweekly pinned Q&A post?

I don't think it makes sense at this point to do anything like reddit's /r/AskScience does in terms of organizing themed panels or vetting people's credentials, nor is that something that's really supported by lemmy as a platform at the moment. It seems, though, that we do have a fair number of users around who are working scientists and engineers in a pretty wide variety of fields.

So: if a pinned Q&A post existed, would you ask questions? Likewise, would you contribute answers? If you wouldn't use it, I'd love to know that too! Do you think it would be better to leave things as they are and just ask questions in post form? Let me know here in the comments, and also of course feel free to raise any additional thoughts or concerns you might have. If it seems like enough folks are interested I can set up a thread to try the idea out.

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A lot of science communication in the media can be, to say it gently, not the best. Important things get left out, conclusions are often misrepresented or extrapolated to things that they really don't say, and methods are often left out completely.

I want to find some more sources for good science communication that people have generally found to be both accurate and well written for folks outside the field (since if all we wanted was accuracy, we'd just read the primary literature).

I've always personally been a fan of Quanta. They occasionally write about topics I'm well versed in (materials / crystallography) and I find that on those topics they're very accurate, so I assume that's also true about the articles they write in other fields. I also think that the folks writing for them do a good job at the communication aspect, e.g. being willing to cover the basics a bit before jumping into the new science.

What about you all? Do you have a favorite or a go-to for high quality science writing?

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

Really interesting to hear an actual expert with experience at depth (and at this exact site) discuss this story. I'm glad the anchor didn't cut in too often and let him speak at length. Thank you for sharing!

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I assume a fair number of folk around this community have been aware of the labor negotiations going on at UPS right now, and the potential strike next month. This video from More Perfect Union that came out today is sharing the stories of a couple of part-time workers (the workers whose exploitation is at the center of the current negotiations).

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submitted 1 year ago by realChem@beehaw.org to c/science@beehaw.org

Here's the relevant paper (which does not appear to be open access, unfortunately): Polygonal tessellations as predictive models of molecular monolayers

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by realChem@beehaw.org to c/science@beehaw.org

There were a couple of Q/A posts here yesterday that got some pretty good engagement, and I was wondering if folks would be interested in a weekly pinned Q/A post?

I don't think it makes sense at this point to do anything like reddit's /r/AskScience does in terms of organizing themed panels or vetting people's credentials, nor is that something that's really supported by lemmy as a platform at the moment. It seems, though, that we do have a fair number of users around who are working scientists and engineers in a pretty wide variety of fields.

So: if a pinned Q/A post existed, would you ask questions? Likewise, would you contribute answers? Do you think it would be better to leave things as they are and just ask questions in post form? Let me know here in the comments, and also of course feel free to raise any additional thoughts or concerns you might have. If it seems like enough folks are interested I can set up a thread this week to try the idea out.

Edit: Okay, based on upvotes it looks like only about 3% of monthly /c/science users are interested enough in this to click the arrow, so I'm gonna leave it be for now (although it might be worth a revisit in the future). I think @Auster@kbin.social makes a good point about the possibility of a self-sustaining cycle, but the Q/A posts that prompted me to ask about this have actually gotten much more engagement than this pinned post did. Perhaps it's because a lot of people are engaging with /c/science via their own feeds and not visiting the community directly? But either way it seems like, for now at least, individual question posts would probably get more engagement.

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A very thought-provoking video about Gell-Mann amnesia, its compliment (which she calls Mann-Gell amnesia, which I think is a fun name), and science communication

Also the beginning of the video is framed around reddit, which I think is interesting to bring up in the context of lemmy/beehaw, building a new community, and the choices we make about how we communicate with each other online

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This paper describes an amazingly deep principle underlying a lot of physics. The paper might be a little tricky if you're not familiar with group theory, but it's got some pretty good illustrations that help a lot.

The one-line takeaway is:

It is only the absence of some symmetry elements, which is obligatory. It is this property – dissymmetry – which makes phenomena

Essentially, if you can find a broken symmetry in some effect, you know that you'll also find that broken symmetry in (the superposition of) it's causes. You can't necessarily say anything about the set of symmetries of the causes, but you can about their dissymmetries.

The reason I love this paper so much is because it's part of a line of mathematical thinking about science that eventually lead to Emmy Noether's famous theorem, where she was able to prove that wherever we find a conserved quantity (e.g. energy, momentum, etc) it is due to an underlying continuous symmetry in the system. (This isn't the same thing as this paper is discussing, but her result uses this same application of ideas from group theory to physics.)

Note: This paper should be available as part of an open archive but sometimes it's hard for me to tell, since I have institutional access; lmk if you can't access the paper

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

Nobody needs to write an essay; I wrote two (maybe three?) sentences in mine. You just need to actually be interested in beehaw for what makes it different from other instances and express that. My application wasn't really any longer than this paragraph

Registration happens to be behind right now, mainly for technical reasons as alyaza mentioned, but the admin team is working diligently on it (♥)

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Yep, haha, it sure would be convenient if the world only ever threw challenges at us when we were well and fully prepared to deal with them! 🙃

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing this, its the first I'd seen of it. It feels like a kinda message-in-a-bottle sorta thing. The few messages I read were a melancholy mix of people who were clearly going through some hard times, and people trying to share some positivity. (And also some chain-email style "If you see this message pass it on," messages; very nostalgic.)

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 62 points 1 year ago

At least for me at least, I personally err on the side of having more freedom to look into places even if that means dealing with a couple of assholes.

This decision was about users from other instances coming here and causing trouble, not beehaw users going elsewhere. The intent isn't to keep users siloed in here. Unfortunately, lemmy currently only supports two modes of interaction between instances: either you federate, or you don't. More technologically mature fediverse platforms like mastodon have more nuanced options, and hopefully we'll get similar options in lemmy soon that will allow, e.g., beehaw users out onto these instances without letting everyone on those instances in here.

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

Defederation completely cuts the ties between instances, so no connection in either direction: lemmy.world users can't see or post here (which is why this was done), and beehaw users can't see or post there. The latter is less than ideal, but it's the only lever of control lemmy has at this point for inter-instance relations. Hopefully things will change as better tooling / more granular controls are implemented.

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 43 points 1 year ago

I believe Jerboa on android has a feature to let you have multiple accounts signed in, although I haven't messed with it yet

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago

Ideally there'd be options other than what's essentially a binary on/off for inter-instance relations. Something like mastodon has: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/moderation/#limit-server

There just isn't an equivalent in lemmy yet. Hopefully that will change sooner than later

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