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You don't need to be unaware of or even dislike a thing to think a particular joke is bad.

See, this is a much better joke than the original comic.

I would like to understand what you're saying better. I assume the original OP was a thread about sports (though honestly I have no idea). Given that context, how should someone in OP's position behave/respond (if at all) to the posts about trans women in sports?

I'm not saying it's okay for him to waste resources, but they can just stop trying to stop him if they want. They could even legalize euthanasia of they really want to test him. He has access to help according to the article.

With regard to obesity, I don't really understand the difference between killing yourself quickly because of poor health and killing yourself slowly because of poor health. Nobody gets to the point of being immobile because they're doing great, but we still don't forcibly control them.

We temporarily confine intoxicated people and/or escort them home because public intoxication is generally illegal. Alcoholism isn't something I've heard of someone being held for against their will. I've heard of repeat offenders being assigned mandatory rehab, but that's not something you get for being drunk at home or for ending up in the ER with alcohol poisoning.

We don't allow people to do dangerous things that might be a liability issue, but it's completely legal to dive in caves and jump out of planes and climb Everest, even though you could be injured or die. We're not trying to protect people from themselves; we're trying to protect ourselves from their lawsuit.

Why are you making it one thing or the other? We can have more than one conversation. Do you think we should shut up about trans rights altogether because all this bickering over such an insignificant number of people is distracting from larger human rights issues?

If it's the case that the conversation itself upsets you because it hurts and you're sick of seeing it, I totally get that; it's valid.

I understand the sentiment behind wanting to protect someone from themselves, but I don't think society has the right to override the rights of others for their own good. We don't lock up obese people or alcoholics or ban anyone from risky adventures. I think if you want to help people you must do so on their terms and with their consent.

It depends on where the kids are in their development. AFAB and AMAB kids are functionally identical until puberty starts. A trans child should, imo, be allowed puberty-prevention treatments so that they can choose what kind of puberty they'd like to have when they're older. And that's sure as heck not doing anyone favors in the athletics department.

Ah, I wondered if it might have been a typo since "mistborn" seems like a more plausible word. I've been meaning to get around to Sanderson since forever, but I didn't do any reading for the longest time, and I've been on a big sci-fi kick since starting up again because I'm mostly interested in stories that use novel premises to examine issues like human rights and the nature of consciousness/life, etc. I've felt like fantasy is too meaningless adventure-y? Not enough induction of personal growth. But I'm in the middle of The Magicians right now, and that's really proving me wrong, and also there was Tehanu. That was a hard book to read because it was so real.

Anyhow, thanks to you both.

But if he's being kept in a hospital, as in against his will, that is a cage. Apologies if that isn't what you meant with that wording.

That's true; I didn't think about that.

Searching Misborn gives me too many different results. Which one?

I think it was a joke about the ambiguity of English in this instance. I find it amusing to willfully misinterpret things sometimes; it keeps the despair off.