[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

I skimmed through it, and I found that it was just filled with easily refutable "evidence" and a lot of it actually casts China in a bad light. See? We can both play this game.

You said my links were easy to refute, but you never did it. The burden of proof here is on you because you are the one denying this well documented genocide. You expect me to just accept this link of a single person collecting all of their "research"? I gave you a wide variety of sources and you never showed me anything convincing in opposition to them. Just a link filled with lots of apologetics that inadvertently supports the very position they oppose.

[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

Try these on for size.

https://www.cpiml.net/liberation/2020/08/chinas-concentration-camps-for-uyghurs-in-chinas-own-words

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Uighur_genocide the quote at the top of the page should be enough for any individual with a shred of empathy, but everything's cited.

If you actually take the time to look through these sources instead of letting your knee-jerk tell you it's all just US funded anti China propoganda, you might realize what horrific things you're defending.

[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

Yes, I oppose genocide everywhere. I'm not inclined to disagree that there is misinformation, and clearly I'm susceptible to that as well. But there are also sources coming directly from the mouths of people trying to survive this mess. I'm inclined to listen to those people. Beyond that, I don't see any reason to defend a powerful, hypercapitalistic nation like China when there are people coming from ground zero explaining the atrocities they are experiencing. Just like I don't feel like defending a hypercapitalistic nation like the US when they massacre people in the Middle East or fund the massacre as in Palestine. Seriously, what do you even gain from falling on the sword for China?

[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/07/bulldozing-mosques-china-war-uighur-culture-xinjiang

Whether or not you trust the guardian, there's literal satellite imagery showing the erasure of a mosque.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/12/surviving-the-crackdown-in-xinjiang

https://www.ft.com/content/f0d3223a-7f4d-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d

Took me five seconds to grab those sources from Wikipedia. Actually, there's a whole Wikipedia article on the genocide with, you guessed it, hundreds of citations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide?wprov=sfla1

But let me guess, that's all western propaganda to smear the Chinese government which is "totally communist don't worry you guys"? It's all fake news? It's all fabricated, right?

[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

I haven't seen evidence of those exact things happening, but you do realize there are other ways to enact genocide, correct? There is plenty of evidence out there for mosque burnings and separations of families. Maybe we can only see the outside of the detention facilities, but we don't have a single clue what's happening inside. Do we? You really trust that everything is rosey in there? How naive are you?

[-] vivivox@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago

Maybe denying genocide is bad whether it's Palestine or China?

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Who do you worship and through what framework? Are you a pagan or something else? Personally I am a Norse Heathen. At the moment I worship the Norse deities and I worship my ancestors and local wights through a Heathen format. I do have syncretist leanings and for some time have felt a calling towards a couple of Roman and Greek gods. However all my worship is done and will continue to be done through a Heathen format for the foreseeable future.

What about you? What does your faith look like? Or do you lack a faith? I am interested to know!

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Who do you worship and who do you worship with?

Alongside my ancestors and local wights, I worship Freyja, Thor, Eir, Saga, Odin, and Hel at the moment. I feel the strongest connection with Freyja. She has guided me through very difficult moments in my life and has been present throughout my spiritual journey.

My worship is primarily individual, although my partner joins when they feel up to it. They're a non heathen, but enjoy being involved in my spiritual life. They use it as a time to reflect and incorporate their own ancestor veneration which takes on a much different shape than mine.

What does your hearth ritual look like?

vivivox

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