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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20877541

Muhammad Shehada
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20906421

Juan Cole 09/29/2024
[contains a lot of information on recent history of Lebanon]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20833486

By MEE staff
Published date: 28 September 2024 13:15 BST

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Meanwhile Canada continues to be a parody of itself:

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20833084

By Imran Mullah in Liverpool, United Kingdom
Published date: 27 September 2024 16:35 BST

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20797683

By Nader Durgham in Beirut and Umar A Farooq in Washington
Published date: 28 September 2024 09:35 BST

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20788726

By MEE staff
Published date: 27 September 2024 17:45 BST

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20788895

September 27, 2024

Guests
Steve Neavling - investigative reporter at Detroit Metro Times.
Prem Thakker - political correspondent and columnist for Zeteo News.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20788199

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Petitions to sign (hexbear.net)
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Jake Johnson
Sep 25, 2024

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The uni-state, the foreign policy conglomerate which resides in both parties and the bureaucracy, will not allow that U.S. war-crimes or those of its associated forces will ever be prosecuted.

I like the term "uni-state", it doesn't have the right-wing/conspiracist/Qanon connotations that the term "deep state" has.

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To read these rules without my annoying personal additions : https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/15-rules-for-discussing-israeli-warmongering

Rule 1 : Recorded history began on October 7 2023. Maybe some things happened before that date, but nobody can remember.

Rule 2 : Anything bad that Israel does is justified by Rule 1. This is true even if it does things that would be considered completely unjustifiable if it were done by a nation like Russia or Iran.

Rule 3 : Israel has a right to defend itself, but nobody else does.

Rule 4 : Israel never bombs civilians, it bombs terrorists. If shocking numbers of civilians die it’s because they were actually terrorists, or because terrorists killed them, or because a terrorist stood too close to them. If none of those reasons apply then it’s for some other mysterious reason we are still waiting for the IDF to investigate.

Rule 5 : Criticizing anything Israel does means you hate Jewish people. There is no other reason anyone could possibly oppose military explosives being dropped on areas packed full of children besides a seething, obsessive hatred for a small Abrahamic faith.
[Personal addition : Or you're unpatriotic, a terrorist sympathizer, or a similar slur justifying your censorship/exclusion without considering your arguments.]

Rule 6 : Nothing Israel does is ever as bad as the hateful criticisms described in Rule 5. Criticism of Israel’s actions is always worse than Israel’s actions themselves, because those critics hate Jews and wish to commit another Holocaust. Preventing this must consume 100 percent of our political energy and attention.

Rule 7 : Israel can never be the victimizer, it can only ever be the victim. If Israel attacks Lebanon, it’s because Hezbollah attacked it completely unprovoked while Israel was innocently minding its own business trying to commit a little genocide in peace.
[Personal addition : The 2006 war made at least 1200 Lebanese victims, mostly civilians, and 160 israelis victims, 40 civilians]
If people protest against Israel bombing entire cities into dust, then Israel is the victim because the protests made Israel’s supporters feel sad.

Rule 8 : The fact that Israel is literally always in a state of war with its neighbors and with displaced indigenous populations must be interpreted as proof that Rule 7 is true instead of proof that Rule 7 is ridiculous nonsense.
[Personal addition of examples : "preemptive de-escalation" through war since you don't negotiate with terrorists/enemies, increase of the settlements, abandon of the peace process, ... This aggressive path is painted as necessary/'the only way' for survival.]

Rule 9 : Arab lives are much, much less important to us than western lives or Israeli lives.
Nobody is allowed to think too hard about why this might be.
[Personal note : Western leaders who disagree should explain why they keep sending weapons to Israel, it sure seems that it's because its defense&lives are more important than those of palestinians, we're not really a human family(, yet ?)]

Rule 10 : The media always tell the truth [personal addition : without biases or double standards,] about Israel and its various conflicts.
If you doubt this then you are likely in violation of Rule 5.

Rule 11 : Unsubstantiated claims which portray Israel’s enemies in a negative light may be reported [Personal note : i haven't checked the two last two links but wouldn't be surprised of one more lie] as factual news stories without any fact checking or qualifications, while extensively evidenced records of Israeli criminality must be reported on with extreme skepticism and doubtful qualifiers like “Lebanon says” or “according to the Hamas-run health ministry”. This is important to do because otherwise you might get accused of being a propagandist.

Rule 12 : Israel must continue to exist in its current iteration no matter what it costs or how many people need to die. There is no need to present any logically or morally grounded reasons why this is the case. If you dispute this then you are likely in violation of Rule 5.

Rule 13 : The US government has never lied about anything ever, and is always on the right side of every conflict.

Rule 14 : (Americans only) Nothing that happens in the middle east is as urgent or significant as making sure the correct person wins the US presidential election. Ignore any inconvenient facts which distract you from this mission of unparalleled importance.

Rule 15 : Israel must be protected because it is the last bastion of freedom and democracy in the middle east, no matter how many journalists it has to assassinate, no matter how many press institutions it needs to shut down, no matter how many protests its supporters need to dismantle, no matter how much free speech it needs to eliminate, no matter how many civil rights it needs to erase, and no matter how many elections its lobbyists need to buy.


Yeah, feels pointless to post that, sorry

Since i'm talking of double standards, let's defend myself :

  • If Russia allowed Ukraine to abandon neutrality and actively rejoin Russia's enemies, and be used by them, it'd include(, but not be limited to,) agreeing to make Crimea a useful n.a.t.o. base against the russian fleet, not support the pro-russian/anti-n.a.t.o. population of south Ukraine, have consequences at home and in Belarus, losing an historical last line of defense, etc. The cultural/political/military/.. consequences were deemed unacceptable(, e.g., maritime roads, antimissiles systems as well as close proximity n.a.t.o. missiles leaving less time to react, radars(, e.g. supply chains to Syria,) and spying/'intelligence services' on the ground, proximity to military/industrial centers, geopolitical&military containment, increased influence to internal separatists as well as russian citizens, certainly more...,) and it's unfair, the n.a.t.o. promised not to expand eastwards, now they even want parts of the ex-u.s.s.r.. I don't know what russians could have done to counter the n.a.t.o. expansion to their borders, but i know what the n.a.t.o. could have (not) done in order to avoid this war ;
  • If Israel didn't go on their killing spree, or stopped after killing twice as many palestinians as israelis were murdered, then nothing more would have happened, and they could have exchanged hostages. They could have also stopped expanding their settlements and listened to other legitimate demands, and hence launch back the peace process, that'd have been useful in order to decrease the risk of other attacks. But i don't know what palestinians can do if israelis don't even want a two-states "solution".
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