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What are tankies? What does sea-lioning mean?
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this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
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"Sealioning" here refers to a way of trolling by asking ill-intended questions, usually disguising it in innocence. When other members try to explain and help, they'd try to lure them into hours of discussion upon it, usually by knowingly misinterpreting what they heard.
Or worse, just directly disrespect and reject all the suggestions the commenters provided. The essence is being a waste of time for everyone.
Is this the same as "concern trolling"?
Concern trolling is acting like you're concerned about the consequences of something.
Like,
Sea Lioning would be if I just kept asking you questions about why masks help, often while asking you to link sources. I don't actually want to see any sources tho. I'm just going to keep asking new questions and for more sources until you get tired and stop replying.
Because the more time you waste on me, they less you help people who are genuinely asking for it. Plus when you stop replying, I can claim that as a victory because that must mean there aren't any sources that agree with you.
I have seen these types of scenarios before, just didn't realize they had names.
TIL
It's related but it differs on the form. Concern trolling is derailing online discussions and debates by simulating concern over a seemingly valid counterpoint, making all participants waste time and effort arguing a previously settled matter, or pretending to just be playing devil's advocate. Acting as if, although you support the cause or discussion at hand, you somehow still have some valid concerns to oppose.
I don't think so. As far as I'm aware, concern trolling is an act to lower morale and place distrust among the opposing side. A person who's on side B pretends to be on side A.
Let's say you're an admin on this site, and you have made a post asking for server donations.
Then just when all was going well, another member comes to the comments, who seems to support you and praise you really well at first. The rest of their comment is then telling everyone that they "appreciate your work", but "you can't handle it", because this or that. Causing some of your genuine members to question you with their "concerns"
I'm on your side, so you should take my bullshit concerns seriously!
Concern trolling is "raising concerns" about certain issues that have little to no basis in reality and only serves to inject bigotry and bad ideas. For example, people were concerned about "the gays(tm)" spreading their immoral gay AIDS virus all over innocent children during the 80s and into the 90s, only to learn that AIDS is spread through contact with broken mucosa membranes, which then shifted to "the gays(tm) are pedos" argument.
The "concerns" are nearly always disingenuous.