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submitted 8 months ago by tkk13909@sopuli.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Does having an AirBNB setup make someone deserving of the guillotine or does that only apply to owners of multiple houses? What about apartments?

Please explain your reasoning as well.

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[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

People extorting money due to the finite nature of land, for the sole reason of having been born with better access to capital.

It's just making money, due to having money. They didn't invent anything, they didnt discover and invest in an emerging company. They didn't do anything innovative or clever. Anyone born to wealth could have done it. Which is why those are, by far and away, the vast majority of landlords.

Even a Conservative, union busting aristocrat like Churchill knew how bad landlordism was and landlords have been hated throughout all of human history. It's only the current neoliberal plague who've attempted to moralise it with rich people worship and bootstrap paradoxes.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago
  1. Not everyone who is a landlord is born into wealth. Someone born into poverty can also be a landlord.

  2. By your logic, grocery stores are the same. They don't grow the food. They don't invent new food. There's nothing wrong with grocery stores either.

  3. The main reason landlords are hated is jealousy. People hate those who have something they don't. Especially when landlords worked for what they have and the ones who are jealous didn't -- they want to be handed things for free without contributing. Look at the old parable of the ant and the grasshopper.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
  1. they can but they're so few and far between that they don't need mentioning. Loads will claim to have been born poor too but experience has left me unable to trust those claims. I even reference the fact that its not literally all off them, so I'm not sure why you needed to mention it again.

  2. All landlords, I was very clear about that but people making money through simply being a middle person sucks too. Nothing close to landlords though which is why I didn't mention them and they aren't covered by what I said.

  3. Ah yes, the old "bitter or a hypocrite" trope. It has to be one or the other, as the amoral people who throw it around can't comprehend a moral objection to exploitation, usually due to poor empathy and even poorer social skills. The only people who want something for doing no work is landlords and shareholders. Its just astral level projection from people born to wealth, who even try to moralise their explanation by claiming everyone else, not born to their privilege and opportunity, must be lazy.

It turns out, they dont care about anyone being bitter or hypothetical, let alone the morality of just about anything. They just really don't want people talking about inequality or exploitation.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

The only people who want something for doing no work is landlords and shareholders.

You are incorrect about that. Landlords absolutely do work.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Its not me who's wrong, as owning something isn't work.

Now, they might do some repairs or maintenance but thats actual work and not what they're paid for.

What they're paid for is for doing no work and they, like shareholders, are the only people who expect to be paid for doing no work.

Our society is so messed up that they even have people declaring ownership is work, on their behalf.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Being a landlord is in fact, work.

Simply owning a property is called being a real estate investor. You can invest in property without even setting foot in it.

But maintaining it, interacting with tenants, etc is all work and that's what a landlord does. As such, people should get paid for their work.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Again, you're wrong. "Landlord" sn't work.

landlord

a person or organization that owns a room, building, or piece of land that someone else pays rent to use

You can't just make up you're own definition of words. A landlord can outsource all of that to a management company and still be a landlord.

Maintenance is work and people should be paid for work. However, the landlord will get paid regardless of who does it. Thats because "landlord" isn't work which is why "landlording" isn't a verb.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

"Landlording" is a word. It's the act of performing the work of a landlord.

Anyone can pay someone else to do work. But the act of hiring others and making sure they're doing their job is still work.

The majority of landlords are known as "mom and pop" which means they only have a few rentals. Many small landlords don't hire a large team because there's not enough money coming in from the rental to do so.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No, you can't just make up words either. It's deliberately misused slang, at best. Even then, I didn't say it was or wasn't a word. Please try and keep the sophistry to a minimum. I said it wasn't a verb as "landlord" isn't a job and "landlording" isn't a doing word.

That's recruitment, not being a landlord. Recruitment is work.

Regardless of what names they may or may not have, owning something, in of itself, isn't a job.

You're making this seem a lot harder than it actually is.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Being a landlord IS a job. Being a landlord involves work, and work is a job. This is very simple.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No, owning something, in of itself, isn't a job. For example, you own the device on which you're typing you're utter nonsense. Is you owning your device a job?

Have you ever seen a job vacancy for "landlord"?

No, of course not. Thats why "landlord" isn't a job.

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Being a landlord is a self-employed job. People don't advertise for self-employed jobs. They do those jobs themselves!

Sounds like you're the one with the ignorance on the topic.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Owning something isn't a job, even if you stamp your feet and strop about it really hard. Thats why no definition of the word defines it as a job. Stop making up meanings for words, its pathetic.

Landlord

a person or organization that owns a building or an area of land and is paid by other people for the use of it:

NOT A JOB.

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