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Ok, I'd say: Education and democratic involvement.
You sleep in the bed that you make. People don't shit where they sleep.
When people make the laws, people won't break the laws.
And sex crime for example?
Edit: People downvote, but no one provides an explanation for the monsters who do shit where they sleep?
Just because a sentence sounds good, doesn’t mean it’s true.
You're downvoted because it seems like you're trolling with that sentence fragment. What exactly to you mean by "sex crime" and how does it connect with the previous comment?
It’s a pretty easy to infer question from the context of the comment chain.
But as some people are apparently lacking in such an ability what I mean is how is education and democratic involvement going to stop people who commit crimes that aren’t born out of ignorance or lack of freedom?
A rapist will gladly shit where they sleep, they are not engaging in illegal acts for rational reasons (ex. Poverty or disenfranchisement).
The notion that those two thing are the solution is ridiculous.
IMHO, it was less a case of what you said but rather how you said it. That made people want to not engage.
I'd suggest you'd adapt your tone a bit. You kind of come off as an asshole with some shit like that.
As to your point: If society focuses on eradicating the reasons that lead to people becoming rapists (e.g. lack of community, need for power over other people, mental health issues, ...), rape cases should go down.
Genuine question: In what way and amount do you think is the police actually preventing sexual assault?
People don’t rape because lack of community and you can’t just magic away power desires.
Also I don’t support the police full stop. I’d like to see the whole thing abolished, I just don’t think you’ll solve all crimes through such idealistic nonsense.
Being part of a community could keep potential rapists in check, making them not wanting to shit were they sleep.
Desires of power aren't integral to humanity. They were fostered once, they can shrink again.