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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Kaplya@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[-] aaro@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

This is not even a little true, Republicans named it themselves and it is an extremely stark departure from what any previous president from either party has planned to do once they gain office. There's not really precedent for this going back at least to Reagan.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago

extremely stark departure from what any previous president from either party has planned to do once they gain office

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[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing CoG/Unitary stuff under Bush. It was a thing under Bush that was talked about in the news. It's not unprecedented.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

no-oil when gog and Magog are at work against your crusade so you can't let your vice pres puppet master do weird legalese that centers more power under you and more stuff I'm too tired to write about

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