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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Kaplya@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I get what you mean, but I think the jan 6th stuff is proof enough that the dems won't be protecting anybody or using the powers of the state to go after right wing violence. They've treated the jan 6ers with kid gloves, some lib in florida who just posted about going to the capitol building to protect it from people trying to invade it got as long a sentence if not longer than the people who actually broke into the capitol in DC. Same with those militia weirdos who were plotting to kidnap a governor (well, the ones who weren't FBI agents or informants), or the Bundy weirdos. The democrats are pretty much indistinguishable from the republicans in their legal repression - they're only really interested in punishment for those to their left.

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